running around the station slowly is boring I agree
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It was my home too, and the environment I learned the game in.
Mrp speed feels pretty balanced to me. Lrp is like “wtf was that thing that just flashed past me?!”
The first time I’ve joined beestation server it was golden. It just wasn’t my thing though, so I’ve decided to play on TG instead. However, I was later banned from TG for some bullshit (I’m unbanned now), so I had no other choice than bee, and then I’ve discovered sage. It was beautiful, bunch of friendly people actually roleplaying and all. Rounds sometimes reaching 10 hours, because noone was self-antaging/sabotaging the station on purpose. I liked it so much I have even applied for an admin, but then sage was kill. People I’ve liked left.
Sorry, I don’t really like LRP.
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Forcing change despite it being voted against sounds like a good way to piss off way more than just two players.
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This, exactly.
I don’t know what made people think that LRP needed change while it had very decent pop numbers. All the rule changes tailored to MRP players, trying to tone down the “chaotic fun” aspect of the server, and constant negligence from admins AFTER the changes is what drove pop off the server. Constant hugbox changes will just turn current LRP into MRP.
But what i really miss is the time when there was no “LRP” and “MRP”. But I honestly can’t imagine anyone from our current staff team putting up with the chaos that was old beestation. Back when there was only LRP, with pop reaching constantly reaching 100. With people like Alfred and Lubricant Bob constantly fueling the “chaotic fun” aspect of Bee. IMO Everything went downhill after the split and LRP has been slowly dying since, and even if there was something left of old bee lrp, it died back when the n-word got banned.
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I dunno man, the only thing that was in any capacity better about old beestation was the pop, and pop isnt always the answer, demonstrated by paradise.
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I mean that’s already the policy, the votes don’t mean anything right now. Votes are just to gauge what people think, not how the server is run.
yea to this (except maybe the n word part but whatever)
there are plenty of people with first-hand accounts that seem to have their voices shut out in exchange for a convenient narrative. it’s pretty offensive
thanks for this btw. such a nice person!
If that’s the case than why even have a vote at all if they are going to force a change anyways despite mass disagreement about said change? I would feel the same way even if the speed vote won and they never changed it what was the point of having the vote to begin with just pure curiosity?
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I’m not anyone important I can’t answer that kinda question. I will say I haven’t heard any serious new attempts to change it since the vote, but I have seen things merged that lost votes and votes seem less common then they used to be. I’m just talking really, don’t take anything I say as what the server is gonna do. If there’s another speed vote I’ll vote to make the speeds the same, otherwise I’m honestly irrelevant.
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Perfectly fine you had a respectable discussion with me over it and even gave me some new info I didn’t previously know about how votes are going which is worrying if what you say is true but same as the rule changes coming up I can only hope for the best with these kind of things.
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dont fuck it up doe. Don’t make LRP into a felind friendly 5+ child server.
Keep the boning and add standard roleplay
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I started playing SS13 on ye olde Beestation with like 100 players, 5 minute rounds and famous war criminals competing on who breaks the geneva convention more often.
As long as you only ban people for killing half the server without being antag, shit is fun. Keep it like that in LRP
Beestation anarchy good times 
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Hiero: Speed is completely irrelevant unless you are a beginner who just runs away instead of dodging. You can completely tank hiero with just a pen and a core anyway. You have room for tons of mistakes if you do fight it, even more if you bring literally any heals. Admittedly speed does make the Hierophant easier but it does not really affect the fight in the sense that it’s already incredibly easy without it.
Drake: You dodge drake by moving one square to any direction, or two in case of arena. Its speed comparable to that of a slug. Suffice to say that you don’t need to move fast to deal with anything Drake can throw at you.
BDM: The only thing speed can help you with here is if you fuck up and have to run away. In an actual fight you’ll either tank the fucker, cheese him with hiero, or lure him down a tunnel in which case speed really doesn’t matter since you’ll be keeping close to him anyway to land hits.
Bubblegum is the only fauna that actually makes you wish you were faster, in order to cheese the slaughterlings and his enrage, as well as escape his illuisions easier. All of the others typically just offer an easier escape if you’re fast and aggro them for some reason unintentionally.
Source: Miner main lol
With all due respect - you played LRP during the time when it was the only server and should remember that before Sage existed, there were bans on LRP for poor RP conduct. It used to be treated as an RP server with minimal restrictions. You couldn’t speak OOC in IC chat, you couldn’t mention Admins or talk about ahelps in a round without being smited or banned. It used to be an actual Light RP server for nearly the entire year it was at its peak, and that only changed after Sage was introduced and hippie flowed in. There are ban records for poor RP that pre-date Sage’s existence.
And that’s not even what we (or at least I) am pushing towards. I support an NRP server where people can speak freely like they’re in a game, experiment with crazy things and put their game knowledge to the test by powergaming in any way they want to prep for inevitable antag attacks. I support optional RP for people who like doing gimmicks (Russian Cargo/Cannibal Chef) as long as they aren’t unjustifiably harmful.
I don’t support a server where players can get away with acting like an antag when they aren’t, or can “but I didn’t harm them!” their way out of being a dick and ruining someone else’s round, or with players that like starting fights just so they can repeatedly dunk on someone and then remove them from the round for daring to fight back. Or how about that time someone got so butthurt that the CE took actual non-harmful action against them for breaking into Atmos that they couldn’t think to do anything else for the round except harass the CE and smash up the station
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All I can say is best of luck to the admins and players that want to start this initiative. Golden has a reputation it has to overcome in order to draw people to it.
Every time I’ve connected to Golden (in nine months of playing on Beestation Sage) I’ve been self-antagged within seconds of leaving the shuttle before reaching my department. I had to learn SS13 on Sage because Golden - the server people said was “beginner friendly” - never gave me a chance to try.
And I say that not to be hopeless or sandbag what Cae is calling us to LRP for. It’s to highlight that it’s going to take a lot to break that first impression for someone that found Sage to be their thing. Because I do wanna try Golden to do goofy stuff.
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Quote from Ike709, after merging the removal of the autodoc and someone opening a request for a vote.
“Votes have never been and will never be binding.”
FYI this is where I get the stuff about vote policy. Not relevant here, just wanted to show I’m not making that up, and therefore, it is possible to just merge the speed change (but no one has actually said they are even considering such).
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I do remember that RP was still enforced on the old bee; hell, i got noted for disposaling a scientist once; but even then, i can’t quite put it into words, but it still somehow felt less hugbox-y than what we currently have.
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