I have personally been executed by Zane Blake (VictorPride) on this server, he was a mere officer (which he self admittedly plays instead of HOS), with no authorization from the Captain, or any one else. Just found some item on me or something, I don’t even remember, drags me silently to the execution chamber and kills me. Admin marks the issue as IC – that really should not fly on an MRP server, and usually just reeks of admins playing favorites, which just encourages and galvanizes the behavior.
This isn’t what crack is arguing about, he’s arguing about things such as mute sec officers going around valid hunting with no rp whatsoever, not even communicating in the security channel.
Oh okay, let’s keep 5 prisoners in perma. Wait, this is a shitty place to have anyone in, since it’s easy to break and far from any security.
Executions are not against the rules, but you have to go through the rp process of proving guilt and getting captain’s authorization. Blow joe Security officer executing a detained prisoner “because he is valid” is not roleplay whatsoever.
Oh that sucks, I was valid and got killed by officer in brig but not in the field, when he had most likely 2/3 companions to handle 50 or more crew.
I’ve been in those shifts, but that’s not the shifts I’m referring to in my example. It was not hectic at all, and this behavior is so common that it can be applied to almost any shift of the day no matter the pop. It is ingrained in the culture, and I bet people like that even think they are doing the “right thing”.
Bingo – this is exactly it.
Also, from my experience, which I have some, mute officers are those that are hunted and dead.
Although, generally, I could agree that security officer executing without any permission is a bad behaviour, and worth ahelping, but from what I’ve seen, as I been ghosting recently often, Zane, and almost any officer asks at least HoS for permission to execute.
This is goofy. As if the other servers have some secret sauce for medium role play besides having 50 admins. Maybe if you specifically illustrated through words what the other servers do better, this thread might actually go somewhere
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Point is, that except sec behaviour, they just said ‘MRP is bad, fix it’, and nothing much.
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Something is being left out here because if you’re being brigged for 5 minutes you didn’t do “almost nothing”, you committed a Major Crime and you’re making it out like you’re some innocent guy. If you truly did nothing you shouldn’t have been brigged in the first place because this would already a violation of the rules. So either you’re lying or you should have ahelped in the first place.
Having traitor items is a capital crime, regardless of whether the person claims they “found it”. Unless they immediately delivered it to the Brig and called out on radio they had found the item then why would you believe their excuse if you just found it on a random search?
If there was less criminals to arrest you’d have security with the time to entertain this sort of high RP, but currently rounds are too chaotic to spend half an hour doing mock trials.
The metagrudge is real, I wondered why you were so involved in my other thread.
At any rate remember that space law is just a suggestion and by server rules you’re already valid to kill by being a traitor. I don’t know what round you’re referring to but I can almost guarantee that the station was not in a state to be RPing out having the cap coming down to do the honours personally.
Honestly if you have so much of an issue with me make a player report, bitching in every other thread about it is sad.
Your right it is a crime, but not one proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Which is why if circumstance allows it should go to trial. But prisoners will usually not even get the opportunity to plead their case without being harm batoned down in their brig cells.
I can’t even agree with you because if I do, I will be spoiled as your metafriend and my arguments will be invalid. Oh wait
Ok for instance lets take some of the more popular MRP servers like Yogstation.
They have a much clearer arbitration process, rules are more consistently enforced, and admins are rotated often enough to prevent bias and favoritism. They also have a tool that allows you to replay a round like a movie, and are able to get down to the nitty gritty arbitration without threads devolving into personal attacks from the peanut gallery.
Here is the thing, when I play Yogstation, and I see a samenamer, I know that person is competent and robust, and survived the grueling Yogstation adherence to bureaucracy and rule enforcement. When I see a samenamer on Beestation MRP, I know my round is about to get majorly ruined.
Because this is not HRP, rounds have many antags and security can’t be just uh wait in this cell before we bring few more, simply brig capacity is VERY limited and prisoners are to be handled quickly.
This isn’t Yogstation, there isn’t an interserver or international law how should MRP look like, MRP Bee is MRP Bee.
Bruh how can you prove that the desword in Billy McMurderbone’s backpack is his or not? Even if it had someone else’s fingerprints on it it could very easily be the case they dropped it for a second or placed it in a corpse’s hand.
Like it’s just not possible to prove who was the original owner so I have no clue what you’re getting at here.
You’re trying but that’s not how examples work, chief.
The part about the tool is an issue of tech which is beyond the scope of this thread.
That why I said if circumstances allow, but even in relatively quiet shifs I still see this type of behavior happen.