CKEY: wirpy
Admin’s CKEY: aeder1, Prickly_tomato
Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: both
Which server did the ban happen on? Sage
Ban Type: Job
Ban Length: 10 Days
Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2020-08-16 21:16
Round ID: 19978
Ban Reason: Beating the clown and mime for fun, general shitsec behaviour, executing without cap’s auth.
Appeal Reason:
Aight so I started off as round-start Warden in Security, I was prepared for doing the warden job and just relaxing you know. Watching cameras, making sure records are kept up to date, treating prisoners fairly and so on bla bla. Typical Warden things.
At roundstart we had a lawyer admit to being a blood brother and I got a bit over-excited at the mere thought of curbstomping a Syndicate agent. So with my poor judgement and over-excitement I asked HoS a time too many if I could do such thing but I was given a no and a auto-mute by the spam system since I typed please too many times.
But apprently being excited at executing someone is wrong and I can’t grasp why, can’t one roleplay a man who utterely hates the syndicate and despises them so much they don’t even view em as worth living? Wouldn’t one be excited if they could execute a syndicate agent which might have caused em great pain before in their lives?
So fairly early into the round after previous, the AI of this round had shown hard signs of having a pretty obvious metagrudge against Security as whole and on top of that being very emotional (Not really acting as emotionless as a AI would be) which made the current HoS quit his job and promote me which I wasn’t really prepared for.
But I thought eh, I can be HoS sure, I can still try to chill as much as possible as I had prepared for.
Round goes fairly normal for a while, clown gets arrested for attacking a botanist and trying to screwdriver their eyes out. I personally searched him, and put a straight jacket and muzzle on him because It was a bit tiring hearing him say CLM (Clown Lives Matter) the whole time. Can’t remember but I might have punched him one or two times that time as well so he’d learn a lession. (This was still fairly early in the round)
I think it’s absurd that the admins involved claim that I beat the clown and mime for fun.
In the clowns case he was a bit of a goofball and lowkey shitter in my opinion but no hard feelings I think it’s funny and I didn’t want to ruin his experience on the station. He got arrested twice for assault, both with a deadly weapon. So the second time I actually beat him a little more since he was more anooying (Kraw maga neck chops and one accidentl lung since I pressed the wrong button) I just wanted to silence him to clear my mind and the screen.
Its not like I stood there and just beat him without mercy.
In my opinion there was no fun beating of the clown, both times he was guilty and it was discplinary for him to get a lil beating.
Onto the Mime, I never even touched the mime until the moment I decided that we’d execute the Mime.
One of the officers had caught the Mime, he was searched and the following from what i remember was found: Captain bowman, sec huds, full plasma tank, HoP ID, Sec Officer ID and that’s not really items a normal nanotrasen employee would get their greedy hands on. So of course it’s pretty much confirmed he’s a enemy of the corporation.
So without getting hold of the Captain and having a uncoperative whiny ass AI, I decided to take matters into my own hands and order a execution since I was HoS. I dont want to risk the lives of my officers and other personnel by letting the Mime into perma, it’s a waste of resources for this case due the stolen items. I didnt know how many AA cards the mime potentically could have made with the HoP card and I aint sure as hell letting him into perma just to have him get busted out (Security got pretty bombared at one point in the round, had armory broken into and so on.)
The station as whole is just better off by executing them which we did and It was a enjoyable bonding experience clubbing the mime down together with my officers.
So nah, I can’t agree that I beat the mime for fun since the only time I touched him was when I executed him and It wasn’t for fun. It in the stations best interestet and safety that the Mime couldn’t liv due their syndicate nature and recklessness and pile of crimes commitied.
So In rule 4 it says:
Respect space law and standard operating procedures. Committing minor crimes is justifiable through roleplay, but major crimes should typically be avoided
I’d like to point out that this rule specifies RESPECT and not that I have to obey it like as a religion?
Of course I wouldn’t just straight off execute a confirmed traitor as warden / HoS without asking permission from the Captain but when I am not given a response from the Captain within a timelimit that’s acceptable and I can’t get a certain answeer that the Captain is alive, am I supposed to endanger the station further by putting them in perma-brig or am I supposed to do what in my vision is best for the stations safety, my staff’s safety and the general protection is supposed to be done by the HoS and security department ?
I can say that all confirmed blood brothers and traitors we caught were executed since I thought It’d be the most apprioate way of dealing with them regarding the sitation aboard the station.
So Instead of piling up the 4-5 traitors or what we caught that round in perma-brig and potenitally risking them all ganging up and attempting a escape I thought’d we’d prevent more destruction and murder by just executing them as means of keeping the station safe and protected. Afterall, what’s a syndicate worth? Nothing in my eyes IC atleast.
Also I dont get this shitsec behaviour accustation? Where the fuck is that coming from, not even mentioned in messages between me and prickly in the admin messages. Pretty much the whole round I was in brig juggling constantly between the admin pms and the constant flow of IC stuff that had to be resolved. Like honestly, what did I do that counts as shitsec behaviour? I didnt go around randomly arresting people for bullshit charges, uneccesiarly beating people or just doing generally dumb shit.
I was serving the stations best interest and you’d be foolish to claim I didnt. If you are confirmed traitor, you aint worth shit in my eyes IC as previously said and I’m pretty sure they aint worth shit in Nanotrasens eyes either.
I think the admins don’t understand the situtation and what actually went on IC during this round and they’ve failed to even explain the reasons behind the verdict that has been laid upon me.
The only thing that was discussed in admin pms is the executing without captains auth which I feel that prickly didn’t give me a solid reason how I actually broke rule #4. I feel that I took apprioate roleplay measures to get the permission needed and when iIt couldnt be established through the Captain, I myself have to take the reign and steer the ship in the direction I see fit as the head of the security department ( acorrding to space law and standard operating produces of course )
TL:DR Explain yourselves please, I didn’t hear any complaints from anyone but the AI that I executed valid n confirmed traitors so what’s the big problem here really?