Winter Darkraven banned by Ravellon — The Remake to the Prequel

Honestly I don’t mean to sound rude or anything, but this reminds me a lot of like what happened in August with Owen, I’m not trying to insult the admin or anything nor do I want to stir the pot but this feels like an excuse more than a actual thing that happened from the logs posted so far,
Edit: I didn’t notice the admin name change sorry about that, thanks Bloon! Fixed it to correct my mistake

This was from a bad interaction Velvet had with another player earlier in the round. Ravellon did the actual ahelp/ban.

Oh gosh I’m sorry, I didn’t notice the name change of the admins in the log completely my fault I’m sorry about that

@anon64574651

Can you respond as to why you printed AA and tried to raid the shuttle?

Hmm. After further look through the logs this no longer seems like justified ban. I missed the part with Bill Willson.

Hangy may or may not deserve Sage HoP ban. Not sure.

Unbeaned. Want to hear from @anon64574651 on the subject of said Bill Willson who was seemingly given AA.

Didn’t give Bill Wilson AA. Only gave myself AA to be acting captain for about ~5 minutes and the HOS who needed it for arrests. Captain didn’t notify me via Command comms to come to brig or anything, just sent velvet on me. Again, I was going to remove my AA, but wanted to get some shite from medical, get a spare emergency oxygen tank and check up on cargo first. I’d also like to note that Velvet and the Warden got Ian killed during my arrest and used far too much force than appropriate.

On the shuttle, I literally just entered the Command portion AFTER THE CAPTAIN HAD PARDONED ME and Velvet responded with a stunbaton and a harmbaton. Cargo obviously didn’t like the fact that I was being harmbatoned so they came to my aid and shoved Velvet around. They responded with harmbatons and a shotgun.

I didn’t start a riot, I asked for help over Supply comms because I was being arrested unjustly. If the Captain wanted to talk, he could’ve over Command comms, he refused and sent you after me instead. ALSO: on the topic of harmbatonning, you are allowed to crit but not kill. You were actively trying to kill me for entering the cockpit and trying to kill my cargoninans for not liking shitsec such as you.

Also ,talking about BIll Willson, all I gave was my spare captain card which I was going to use in the case of the captain dying. I kept it hidden but assumed he needed it to open a door or something, so I handed it over on the condition he gave it back. Cargo was already pretty tense with security so shit was going west fast. From the logs, it appears he printed AA without my consent; this wasn’t my goal. I do believe the ban should stay because shooting the HOP after a pardon with no valid reason is just whack.

So you gave a random cargo person all access, watched them print of multiple copies for their buddies, and thought nothing of it.

This then allowed random cargo people to mob the command area of the shuttle, where they attacked a sec officer as well as the captain and a few others.

And there’s nothing wrong with any of this?

First one is me being too trusting, that is worthy of punishment.

Second one is actually okay from what I saw; they attacked the officer due to the fact Velvet was unfairly arresting me again and using lethal weapons against me; cargo came to my aid because nobody wants the HOP to die to a shitty security officer. Velvet brought this part on themselves by harmbatoning me without any valid reason.

And

“:LYNCH SEC”

“EVERYBODY DOES”

“CARGONIA”

“RISE UP”

“IT’S TIME TO OTHERTHROW SECURITY”

had nothing to do with cargo rushing the cockpit and attacking the other command staff?

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That was before the shuttle arrived, if I recall correctly. Again, this was directed towards security, not command staff. The mutiny section of Space Law is not clear-cut; let’s replace the CoC / Captain with Security. If they’re being too incompetent, bad or overall abusing their authority, we are allowed to attempt to overthrow them. Velvet and the warden were doing this.

Can I auto-resolve this with a 7 day HoP ban? I’d like to focus on Velvet’s actions atm.

Considering you already have another active report for abusing command positions, which can be found here: Brother_Hangyul Report

I believe a command ban is more suitable because you’ll just play another head to abuse the CoC.

For my actions, I explained myself already. This is over, already resolved.

Giving myself AA is not abusing the CoC. Stop being a hypocrite, because your own HoS had AA and you didn’t do jack-shit. You are shitsec in its plainest form and Beestation was better without you.

Nothing you did here was justifiable. If you were “upholding the CoC”, you would’ve arrested the HOS too, but by no means did I attempt to overthrow the captain. The captain in question did wrong and you, as a veteran player, should know better than to listen to bad orders. Arresting me and continuing to try arrest me even after your own HoS and Captain told you to stop is already incredibly bad, but then arresting me just for entering the bridge part of the shuttle and trying to execute me for it is beyond bad. Your ban should never be lifted.

@bloons3 @Ravellon Can I re-open a report on him seeing as nothing he did here was acceptable

Considering I made an appeal to your original complaint and it got accepted, I don’t think so because it would get accepted under what I said here. Stop trying to get revenge, because no sane person would continue this.

It’s over, stop trying to get revenge over a spess game.

If I pull out enough proof I can get that shit revoked, and I’ve got quite a bit.

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@Ravellon This is still going on, mind closing this so I can keep my sanity? Thanks for your time, man.