tbh i feel kinda bad that two regulars got banned for just that
It doesnât matter if they were regulars or not, they should even known better what shit might get them banned. Itâs about what is suddenly considered âpermaâ worthy behaviour, and what hasnât been for past many months.
Zero tolerance rules donât really leave room for justice or fairness in every situation but this one exists for a good reason, and it was clearly broken here even if In a pretty tame way
Why havenât these rules been applied to people implying âsexâ and other sexual shit to others for a long period of time?
ERP should be perma bannable, and I donât care whether they are âregularsâ or not, I just do not consider this as âperma worthy ERPâ, and the ban should be changed.
If you canât understand the difference between randomly saying sex while running around and the following I will post below here I feel thereâs little argument to be had
Line 20806: [2020-04-28 09:42:03.392] EMOTE: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) puts his fingers in Velvetâs hair. (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20849: [2020-04-28 09:42:22.575] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) ânice maneâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))*
Line 20871: [2020-04-28 09:42:31.065] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âor do you call it hair like humans doâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 20892: [2020-04-28 09:42:40.069] EMOTE: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) lets out a surprised gasp at the sudden attention at her tail, before relaxing and letting Zaneâs hand go down her silk-like tail. (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 20918: [2020-04-28 09:42:47.702] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) ât-thank you, Zaneâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 20926: [2020-04-28 09:42:51.237] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) âtsmileâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))*
Line 20935: [2020-04-28 09:42:54.010] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) âI meanâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 20947: [2020-04-28 09:42:56.330] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) âthat is normalâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 21089: [2020-04-28 09:43:45.949] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âI believe in rewarding good work in my healslutâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
If you canât understand, that multiple people doing same shit when you are downed, crited or something and saying âsexâŚ???â, âcumâŚ???â and shit, isnât the same, and these werenât banned, then donât post it.
And it has been going for a LONG time on bee, without any move from admins. Implying sexual behaviour involing âcumming in the assâ or âmouthâ has been going for a long time too, just noone cared. Until this ban.
Nice meme, but what is it that you canât possibly understand? That worse behaviour has been present on bee for a long time? Or because it involves your meta buddies?
Iâm sorry you got robusted and while youâre laying on the floor defenseless someone wrote cumâŚ! or sex lmao.
Itâs just a world of difference compared to writing your sec escape pod erotic novel, stroking each other and calling the other person a slut/talk about abuse.
Bruh momento
Itâs just a world of difference compared to writing your sec escape pod erotic novel, stroking each other and calling the other person a slut/talk about abuse.
Youâre right, WGW is actually explicitly detailed and the other is allowed in movies that teenagers are allowed to watch.
Nice try making an âargumentâ involving me being robusted. Yeah it happened many times, as for many of us, but itâs no different that a random person gets âsexâŚ??? cumâŚ?â messages when he is downed, and two people knowing each other and writing it. Oh wait, there is a difference, as first behaviour was fucking always normal for most of admins, (including current headmins), and second got people perma banned.
if you think erotic only means penetration you have a dent in your skull chief. Why yes most of the books I read as a child had lines like
Line 20261: [2020-04-28 09:38:24.036] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) âah-uhâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20272: [2020-04-28 09:38:27.545] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âhmmâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20275: [2020-04-28 09:38:28.512] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) âIâm sitting on your lapâŚâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20289: [2020-04-28 09:38:34.174] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âbad kittyâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20304: [2020-04-28 09:38:38.691] EMOTE: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) pouts. (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20311: [2020-04-28 09:38:41.440] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) âw-wha?â (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20338: [2020-04-28 09:38:51.303] EMOTE: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) sighs. (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20347: [2020-04-28 09:38:56.780] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âwhat will people thinkâŚâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20370: [2020-04-28 09:39:07.279] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) âwho cares what people think?â (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20377: [2020-04-28 09:39:10.121] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âof me abusing my positionâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20395: [2020-04-28 09:39:18.426] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âthat is trueâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20440: [2020-04-28 09:39:36.471] EMOTE: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) plays with Velvetâs ears. (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20456: [2020-04-28 09:39:42.386] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âfloofâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20509: [2020-04-28 09:40:01.783] EMOTE: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) purrs, rubbing her head against Zaneâs touch. (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20528: [2020-04-28 09:40:10.406] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) âb-besides, no one cares if I get abusedâŚâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20566: [2020-04-28 09:40:24.502] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âthis isnât abuseâŚâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20613: [2020-04-28 09:40:47.314] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âjust caring for your felinid coworkers thatâs allâ (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20658: [2020-04-28 09:40:58.707] EMOTE: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) nods. (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20671: [2020-04-28 09:41:02.948] EMOTE: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) strokes Velvetâs tail. (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20806: [2020-04-28 09:42:03.392] EMOTE: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) puts his fingers in Velvetâs hair. (Escape Pod One (154, 178, 2))
Line 20849: [2020-04-28 09:42:22.575] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) ânice mane*â (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 20871: [2020-04-28 09:42:31.065] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âor do you call it hair like humans doâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 20892: [2020-04-28 09:42:40.069] EMOTE: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) lets out a surprised gasp at the sudden attention at her tail, before relaxing and letting Zaneâs hand go down her silk-like tail. (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 20918: [2020-04-28 09:42:47.702] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) ât-thank you, Zaneâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 20926: [2020-04-28 09:42:51.237] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) ât*smileâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 20935: [2020-04-28 09:42:54.010] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) âI meanâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 20947: [2020-04-28 09:42:56.330] SAY: Winter Darkraven/(Velvet Pinkawalt) âthat is normalâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 21089: [2020-04-28 09:43:45.949] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âI believe in rewarding good work in my healslutâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Line 21112: [2020-04-28 09:43:54.300] SAY: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) âI mean, valued brig physicianâ (Escape Pod One (17, 72, 12))
Keep that cringey shit in citadel, paradise or other servers that are down with that kind of behaviour.
Oh yes, certainly different than person saying âsexâ, âcumâ, âcum in assâ and different permutations of these, and other words. This shit you posted is somehow perma bannable, but when someone gets you and says âhmmm sex⌠cumâŚâ you just unrobust CHIEF, itâs not the same.
Ah yes, calling someone a slut as you come within 2 inches of touching their asshole is very PG-13.
Mmm yes, calling sex, cum and shit, then saying that shit over people you downed is child friendly.
Because saying sex or cum with zero context isnât ERP.
Yeah you are right, saying sex to the air isnât ERP, but what I have been trying to tell is that it was being used on multiple occassions, many of them not being without a context.
IF we gonâ play it fair and honest:
SS13 isnât a fucking PEGI 13 game.
No online game is apt for young people because you canât just REGULATE how people are and chat and shit ONLINE. You can implement as many filters and rules as you want, but people WILL find ways to work around them.
to be fair thatâs kind of the fun in online games sometimes. Shittalking is fun
So yes, on one hand, thereâs a fucking sour irony on banning ERP yet people can blast WGW and only get valided and punished ICly like @Kasual mentioned.
On the other: If you actually think saying shit like âSex!â or âCum!â or âBlacked dot comâ is ERP or actually gonna harm muh non-18 years old playerbase or inappropiate; Youâre a twat. ERP can get way more explicit than just âshits and cumsâ and, unlike saying some random shit;
It actually requires real effort from both parties, which makes it even more inappropiate, cringy and awkward to presence.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
I have never said that âsexâ, âcumâ, and other words should be considered ERP. I said that there were used in context indicating ERP way more than this shitty cringe âERPâ that velvet and zane did, and since I have never seen people banned for implying âsex⌠cumâŚâ on downed/crited/unable to move people, I think these two should be unbanned (edit: maybe not unbanned, but given like 3/4 weeks from the time they were banned), given a FAT note and be heavily observed for similar behaviour.
I mean
There were people who got banned for doing shit like âGeorge Melons cums on Owen McShainâs labcoatâ or tried to fuck around with actions includinâ dicks and shit.
Granted, those players were either irregular/low hour players, or just did it that ONE time then stopped.
On their case (or at least Zaneâs?), they were regulars, with Vic even being an ex admin. They knew 'bout it. And no admin thought about punishing them until the fucking headmin came around and made a player report because no fucking admin touched the topic despite KNOWING about it.
Whether it was favoritism, them contributing to the codebase or âlook how quirky my regulars areâ is none of my business, but they got the stick only after the headmin heard about it DAYS after it happened and spent like 72 hours in hall of shame.
This was a fucking fuckfest because it shows how admins do either turn a blind eye when itâs a regular, or how they enforce rules subjectively. Itâs depressing to watch.