The current state of bee station

Admins… you keep trying to justify your shit when you just don’t have to. Just admit you don’t like those people. Admit you get a griefer vibe from them.

antagonist conduct

It’s not mentioned in the ban note whether they were antag or not. Maybe clarify ban messages a bit more so people don’t start shit over every single ban? Either way, antags can kill sec. They can roundend security officers. They can detonate maxcaps in the brig. There’s precedent for this. Do you know what precedent is? Or does it even matter?

limited job slots

What job they were wasn’t mentioned so clearly that’s not the reason for the ban. It’s not about what they did, it’s about sending a message to future people. Right? Otherwise you’d write their job in the ban message and reasoning as for why it was particularly bad for them to do that.

Honestly if everyone on the admin team agrees that suicide is bad, then remove the suicide verb altogether. The only time suicide is “okay” is when you are caught as an antag, and you can’t do that because you’re bucklecuffed to a bed while officers roleplay their power fantasy on you. It’s a useless feature.

At a certain point keeping a feature in just to make it against the rules becomes fucking banbaiting.

warnings are a thing

It’s not about that. It’s about him being a bad player. Clearly he has a lot of notes, and clearly this is a cumulative punishment for all the other shit he already got away with.

Why admins can’t just outright fucking say that is beyond me. Why all the politics and beating around the bush? This is beestation. Just be open with us.

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problem: people are being banned for petty reasons which does not lead to people wanting to play on bee

prioritizing new players over regulars?

Get over yourself.

4. You Must Roleplay
Your character is a grown adult working on a research station for a major company. You are a professional. Act like it.

You’re an absolute hypocrite bothering admins over 2 day bans for meme suicides in the HOP line yet concerning yourself over non-issues such as:

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this is a shitpost complain thread not even directed at admins im just complaining about petty bans that could be replaced by warnings

Its an absolutely normal reason and the only thing they couldve done better is make it a one day ban instead of a two day ban. Which isnt much.

Says the furry claiming herbal tea will prevent future grief in their ban appeal. :thinking:

oops i had no idea what i was talking about here, sry nik

Sry nik. I cant give unbans! Come back when youre a little…mmmmm… Child!

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Oh nice, MRP rules are finally being enforced

ban length doesnt matter imo it just seems uninviting to be banned for suicide on a mrp server when thats a hrp type thing

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this is assuming the goal is to be a “NEW PLAYER FRIENDLY SERVER” and not a gets banned for funne guillotine suicide in hopline hrp server

we could argue about this for decades and never get a conclusive compromise where everyone is happy

It’s LRP behavior on MRP, and they’re not new players.

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Don’t doubt the power of herbal tea, it’s amazing.

If suiciding is “”””””lrp behavior”””””” on mrp then just remove the command on sage instead of banning people for it like a sperg

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If you wanna off yourself, it’s fine to do so, but if you’re exploding yourself with a meta-friend at the HoP line the moment you’re able to commit suicide in the round, play somewhere else.

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So do you need an in-game excuse to do it or not?

The new player server is Golden, Sage is not advertises as the newbie server.

See:

I don’t get why some of this stuff is so difficult for Sage players. Depending on the day sometimes Golden has more people actually being decent and doing their jobs than Sage. :thinking: