So its been memed, but there have been a lot of discussion on Beecord about the variety of issues impacting Sage, and by extension Golden.
Golden players go to Sage because pop (pls learn how seeding works)
Sage RP stagnates because some players are only there for pop size, leading to the “sage has barely improved the past few months / golden is actually better crowd.” Some exceptions exist though for great RP, like Late Night Sage, which sits usually around 30-40 pop range.
Lots of grief bans on Sage lately (summer players maybe?)
Trialing a whitelist for a month would help with most of these problems I think, while possibly reeling back some former Bee Sage regulars that moved onto other codebases due to RP level. Not to mention getting a consistent pop level on Golden, which would help keep Golden play-style players there, rather than play like its Golden on Sage.
Yes, I want to try Sage with a temporary white list
The only thing what whitelist is gonna do is reduce pop on Sage while not changing anything on Golden. A lot of our players would rather have all of their limbs cut off than join Golden.
We had Sage capped to 40 for a week or two, Golden still had a lot of problems to get 20/30 pop, which means that people would rather join other servers/not play at all than join Golden.
Actually, thinking on it as well, wasnt that when the server itself was having huge stability problems? I was under the impression most were avoiding Bee in general due to the server being on fire.
@Crack I can understand that, but at the same time isn’t there a soft whitelist hours limit before you can jump into say RD/CE/HoP and so on. Like 10h as Engineer before being able to CE, etc.
You would prefer a hard whitelist for those positions?
Unironically I would – what makes Sage bad sometimes, and what makes Late Night Sage good is the fact that it’s staffed with competent head roles, who understand nuance, roleplay and keep the atmosphere light and fun (and breathable).
Head roles more or less influence how the round goes, and competency as well as the ability to understand and react to complex situations intelligently is what enables quality roleplaying.
I think a head role whitelist at least for the summer, would keep the shittery to a minimum, while still keeping the server open to everyone.
If you look at the list of outstanding player reports, maybe having to process more stuff requiring diving into logs is a bad idea lol.
Honestly I think mediocre heads is better than no heads too, no heads is more anarchic and really the captain and perhaps even the HoP could be given the duty of wrangling them. (Other servers create jobs to advise you to follow SoP too.)
After the introduction of cap server performance went back to normal iirc (that’s what I said), so why would people not join Golden if performance was alright?
Maybe up the hourly requirements then? I just think there should be a bigger gate on head roles, especially Captain/HOS – people who play these roles on MRP need to embrace roleplaying, and the good atmosphere would trickle down from them.
I tried this, PR was rejected. It makes our game “too inaccessible to newer players”.
The PR was intended to block grief as well as make head roles more exclusive and have a 30 day account age requirement.