Kate bishop Player Report

[Ethnius]

Man, I was AI for a bit of that round. had to deal with tickets so I wiped my core.

CMO cut off the clown’s arms because the clown was just slipping people, and he got beat to crit by a clown lynch group. Then I tell him the honk mother cometh, and I give him chainsaw arms with express rules not to break shit, just to kill monkeys and shit, they did hit a few other players, but there is not much you can do when you only have chainsaw for arms. The arrest was for good reason, and removing them was also for good reason.

[2020-05-25 23:24:48.834] ADMIN: SubtlePM: Ethnius/(Honkerbelle) → Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) : I did not give you this gift to break shit my son, go kill monkeys or something

Looking more into the Say logs, not once did the Clown ask for help from anyone at all. Clown was honestly pretty based

[2020-05-25 23:48:45.682] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “Since when can you handfuff people with chainsaw hands?” (Xenobiology Lab (108, 98, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:49:23.728] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “Its ok to come out of the closet” (Research and Development (142, 90, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:49:28.656] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “we clowns are ok with gays” (Mech Bay (146, 83, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:49:30.847] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “like you” (Robotics Lab (147, 79, 2))

Said this when he got cuffed by Tenesseeeeeee, and during the surgery he said he was okay with being borged too

[2020-05-25 23:50:37.566] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “you could just borg me” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:50:43.627] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “I honestly dont care” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:51:16.318] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “Can I be borged?” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:52:04.590] OOC: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) ((LOOC)) “I aint sawing shit” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:52:08.921] OOC: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) ((LOOC)) “what?” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:52:15.701] EMOTE: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) screams! (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:52:23.333] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “Bruj” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:52:28.071] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “can I be borged?” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:52:37.505] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “I kinda wanna be a janiborg” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:54:00.949] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “yo” (Robotics Lab (145, 74, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:54:04.040] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “can I be borged?” (Robotics Lab (145, 74, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:54:31.117] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “wait” (Robotics Lab (147, 79, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:54:35.448] SAY: Qfmysteryman23/(Honkles Mc Cumsqueeze) “I want to be borged” (Aft Primary Hallway (152, 83, 2))

also looking at Kate’s Say log, they witnessed the whole consensual surgery from clown as a positronic brain in robotics lab, even when clown said he was okay with being borged as the Say logs timestamps show

[2020-05-25 23:50:01.711] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “sec is unbased” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:50:10.496] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “nooo” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:50:21.437] OOC: katebishop/(GUN-549) ((LOOC)) “noo you canot do a gimmick” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:50:27.297] OOC: katebishop/(GUN-549) ((LOOC)) “ha ha clown chainsaw go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:50:40.380] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “me first” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:50:42.157] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “im” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:50:43.243] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “gun” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:50:50.468] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “borg” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:50:53.433] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “protect the clown” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:50:56.339] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “they harming him” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:51:06.974] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “they are” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:51:19.472] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “AND?” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:51:20.518] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “no” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:51:22.497] SAY: katebishop/(GUN-549) “you arent” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:51:39.461] OOC: katebishop/(GUN-549) ((LOOC)) “are you telling me you are removing the clown arms because he had chainsaw arms” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:51:44.480] OOC: katebishop/(GUN-549) ((LOOC)) “as a gimmick” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:52:01.423] OOC: katebishop/(GUN-549) ((LOOC)) “fair” (Robotics Lab (147, 77, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:52:14.297] ACCESS: Mob Login: katebishop/(K.A.T) was assigned to a /mob/living/silicon/robot
[2020-05-25 23:52:14.299] GAME: katebishop/(K.A.T) Client katebishop/(K.A.T) has taken ownership of mob K.A.T(/mob/living/silicon/robot) (Robotics Lab (145, 78, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:55:17.921] SAY: katebishop/(K.A.T) “you caused harm” (Central Primary Hallway (170, 109, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:55:33.352] SAY: katebishop/(K.A.T) “shitsec levels” (Starboard Primary Hallway (190, 131, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:56:07.461] SAY: katebishop/(K.A.T) “perma time” (Prison Wing (211, 157, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:56:55.847] SAY: katebishop/(K.A.T) “there” (Prison Wing (201, 166, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:57:00.828] SAY: katebishop/(K.A.T) “enjoy” (Prison Wing (205, 166, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:57:31.471] SAY: katebishop/(K.A.T) “law 1” (Prison Wing (204, 166, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:58:03.216] SAY: katebishop/(K.A.T) “dont make me” (Prison Wing (209, 164, 2))
[2020-05-25 23:58:45.583] SAY: katebishop/(K.A.T) “shitsec cut clown arms” (Prison Wing (204, 162, 2))

So Kate is definitely at fault, and I am okay with a silicon ban or MRP ban too. But thats my opinion, and it would be great to get another’s admins opinion

[Kasual]

I was just talking on the surgery against someone’s will being harm. I hadn’t taken the time to look at the logs on this report specifically.

And I very much see the pattern with Kate, this isn’t a new play style or anything and they have a long history. I would have most likely acted stronger when the history got to half of what is is now. That said though, history should come into play after wrong doing was found. Assuming guilt or wanting to see someone hit with a ban because of the person alone is real bad, and is happening here with some.

[RodBoward]

Unlocking so @Kate_bishop1 can respond and PLAYERS INVOLVED can comment. Any shittery and it’s getting locked again.

[Kate_bishop1]

Yea i jumped too fast to arms and wasnt paying attention to the chat.

[Tennessee116]

wasn’t paying attention to chat

was trying to argue against clown’s arms being removed as soon as I told roboticist to do such

If you weren’t paying attention to chat, you wouldn’t care.

shrug

[Kate_bishop1]

Tried to talk to you, you didnt awnser you could have stoped and said "cloqn did x you didnt say how am i supposed to see one line ofde text the clown said while editing a shitty image on paint.

[Tennessee116]

You never tried to ask any questions about why except in LOOC. Here is everything you said to me in the robotics lab:

GUN-549 says, “Do i get fune laws”
GUN-549 says, “Or boring ass ai laws”
GUN-549 says, “Dont”
GUN-549 says, “Sec is unbased”
GUN-549 says, “Nooo”
LOOC: GUN-549: noo you canot do a gimmick
LOOC: GUN-549: ha ha clown chainsaw go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
GUN-549 says, “Me first”
GUN-549 says, “Im”
GUN-549 says, “Gun”
GUN-549 says, “Borg”
GUN-549 says, “Protect the clown”
GUN-549 says, “They harming him”
GUN-549 says, “They are”
GUN-549 asks, "AND?
GUN-549 says, “No”
GUN-549 says, “You arent”
LOOC: GUN-549: are you telling me you are removing the clown arms because he had chainsaw arms
LOOC: GUN-549: as a gimmick
(I respond with reports he was sawing people)
LOOC: GUN-549: fair

In that compilation of statements, there are 3 questions. The first one is about laws and is unrelated to the conversation. The second one is you arguing that we are harming him. The third one is you asking what he did, but it was in LOOC. Not once did you ask IC for an explanation of what happened.

EDIT: I’ve also noticed that you’ve made minor changes to some of your previous statements, via the editing tool, about time you figured that out.

EDIT 2: More importantly, the fact that you were alt-tabbing and then jumped into action just proves my point that you acted with minimum information even further.

[Kate_bishop1]

no i didnt change anything

[Tennessee116]

@Tennessee116

You were available to hear that his arms were going to be replaced with regular arms. I don’t know about you, but it is ever so slightly possible that if I were to see a clown with chainsaw arms that might not be an apparently dumb reason. Also, you are the primary reason that clown walked off without arms. You carried it off while we were giving it regular cyborg arms. Screaming law 2, regardless of whether or not it is a bitch move, its a law. The clown was on arrest status, and therefore you aided him.

But hey, they’re a mentor, they clearly can’t do anything wrong. And they have 100+ hours, clearly this report is bullshit. This is just some unrobust fuck complaining on the forums.
shrug

I blatantly remember after this response there was a response involving “chill out, dude”. That somehow has magically disappeared.

[Kate_bishop1]

yes because admins removed it, whats yoiur point.

[Tennessee116]

Huh, okay, no point made then.

EDIT: Regardless, you alt-tabbing and then jumping to action with minimal information is worse than what you already have shown.

[wisakedjak]

People don’t understand silicon. You can’t just deny someone because they may have possibly, in the future, maybe the intention to crew harm. Is it doing crew harm now? No? Obey order. Otherwise, don’t.

You’re crewsimov not robocop; you can’t aid security and validhunt.

[Pill_U]

You can deny someones command to let them out of permabrig if noone tells you what they did or if they murdered people tho. Anyways could this come to a conclusion? Both sides made their point, seemingly dont want to continue arguing, so now would be the time for admemes to draw a line and ban or no ban

[Bestparty]

You can deny access and commands because of a thing in the silicon policy called probable cause tho

[OwenMcShain]

Didn’t kate bring the person to perma himself though lmao? I mean did you even read the initial post of this report. The one that is sort of the start of this and that has logs in it too?

I feel like people are just responding without actually reading the logs or anything of substance in this thread unga

[Pill_U]

Bruh I didnt say kate did, I made an example of when u can ignore that shit and kate claims the dude was human harmin, so permabrigging someone and then not letting em out cus human harm is ok. Imo there was no harm tho so it doesnt count

[Tennessee116]

@GameAdmin I’ve made my point well enough. I’m done here. Make your ruling.

[blazikenowen]

I dont think borgs can actually just perm brig because “human harm” not sure on that so a admin might actually need to give there view on that but last I heard a borg cannot perm brig for that reason because perm brig is only used if someone did something like mutiny like the worst of worst crimes also a admin can delete this is they believe they should since I’m not involved in the incident per say but I actually am curious regarding the situation to and if a borg can perm brig because “human harm”

[Kate_bishop1]

perma is used for literally any crime …