Admin’s CKEY: Vexylius
Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: MRP
Ban Type: Antag/Ghostrole Ban
Ban Length: Week
Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2/18/2020
Round ID: 12657
“BoH bombed the shuttle as an ashwalker. You really though that you wouldn’t get banned for it?”
- Vexylius’s reasoning for the ban was as follows:
“Admin PM from- Vexylius : Well, this is an MRP server, and you have to have a reason to kill someone. Your objective is to protect the tendril, and that’s no reason to BoH bomb the shuttle. You’re getting antag and ghostrole ban for a week because you don’t seem to know how does this not murderboning and killing only if you have a reason for it rule works.”
According to this reasoning, Ashwalkers are not permitted to kill anyone who isn’t attacking the tendril. This goes against practically every ruling I have ever seen with Ashwalkers, who regularly butcher Shaft Miners for sacrifices and invade the station to spread death and destruction among people who would have otherwise never come down to Lavaland. As I told Vexylius in admin PM’s, this ban reason seems bogus; I got the feeling that the admin team felt that my actions were generally “wrong” and had heaps of trouble justifying it under the rules.
Ashwalkers are quite literally told to go out, murder people, and drag them back as sacrifices. Their flavor text includes despising the “outsiders” (crew) and considering them the enemy. This is important because another argument was that, because the crew was leaving on the shuttle, they were no longer a threat to the tendril and were off-limits. That’s not true because they’re “outsiders”, inherently dangerous, and ought to be slaughtered per all the flavor text.
Against claims that this was somehow metagame: the nest was directly next to a golem ship. Those golems provided me with a bag of holding (I asked for a “backpack”) and then mentioned they had a teleporter to the station. In addition, I overhead them explaining how dangerous BOH’s were as a way of trying to prevent a newbie golem from BOH-bombing the shuttle. That’s all the knowledge I needed to have a shot against the crew.
If you’re not going to lift this ban, at the very least edit some of the writing/include bits in the rules for Ashwalkers. If they’re suddenly not going to be allowed to attack people, that needs to be reflected in the flavor text that tells them to go out and hunt. Otherwise, there’s always going to be a serious disconnect between what the rules say and what you’re told in-game in bold 18-point letters.