speaking of, would staff of change make someone antag like benos or syndie borgs
âFriendlyâ wizards should be like âFriendlyâ nukies.
They exist to betray the trust of the crew.
Unlike nukies, wiznerd is only one person so there is more control over it. Also wiznerd has a fuckton of fun and non murderboner spells.
The biggest issue Iâd say is that wizards can steamroll the crew. That in mind, it suddenly becomes more appealing to crew to not fight the wizard (and potentially have to sit around for a while).
My biggest problem with the round that took place was that I was midround traitor who was gonna pull off wacky shit while the everybody was distracted with the first wizard, but then suddenly evac was called on the account of 10 (likely more) deaths due to the second wizard who decided to go on a fire ball rampage. But long story short It personally doesnât matter to me whether wizards are allowed to be friendly or not, but I do hope that maybe there could be some sort of drawback for using the same spell over and over.
My personal opinion is that antags should be allowed to be âfriendly,â with huge quotes. Their objectives should always go against the station in some big way (too many times there is an antag who just needs an unused slime core). If there is an antag that is willing to try to roleplay by getting the crew to try to help them complete their objectives without any murder or mass sabotage, then I say go for it. But they still should be doing their objectives, which are all there with the intent to destroy NT.
Also, there is the idea of an antag giving themself up to security and asking for a pardon. Seen this happen with heretics and pirates. I donât feel like this shouldnât be bad as long as the person is not using their antag gear in order to help hunt their friends or team mates (and are not brainwashed). Sometimes you are outnumbered, sometimes you get cold feet. Whatever happens to you in response is IC (such as your team mate killing you for trying to give yourself up)
Same goes for self antaging, I feel. If an antag can convince you to join them or that they are right through roleplay, then helping an antag in that situation shouldnât be against the rules. Such as a rev convincing me to let him flash me because of communism.
In the end, deciding to act like a pure villian because you know you are an antag or deciding to assist in someoneâs execution because you know OOC they are an antag (despite what roleplay may dictate) doesnât feel much like roleplay to me. Some stuff isnât just black and white.
So, TLDR; black hats vs. white hats makes for very boring roleplay. Interesting stories and interactions come from the grey area. As long as an antag is roleplaying (especially on sage) it should be in IC issue resolved by team mates, security, or their respective command.
IMO wizards should have total freedom in what they do aslong as it is to make it intersting(within reason, you may not be a arcane rapist)
I sometimes wana host D&D sessions as a wizard(spell book gives me some really good props). I hate just randomly killing people and always seek to make a gimick out of it, which in many cases means I wont be actively hunting people down.
That being said, if some one is only helping the crew with no other context I think admin should simply make a situation that challenge the crew + wizard. If possible. It makes something unique.
Wizard as a role is designed to just simply make unique experience, which is usually why the fireball wizard is 9/10 times pretty boring to play against. There tools are all pretty powerful and the wackier the combo usually the more broken it becomes. Which likely is intended.
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If wizards are gonna be allowed to be friendly, the crew should obviously be allowed to have a go at the wizard still, even on MRP.
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Obvs, they are still antags.
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this is by far my favorite quote from this man
If you play murderboner wizard people complain, if you play peaceful wizard they also complain.
Some antags are more inherently dangerous than others or have a sole purpose or murder and mayhem.
Wizard has the option to be rampaging freak or someone just getting their greentext.
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