Cobradormascarado noted by Ruko

Ban Appeals Game Appeals
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CKEY:
Ruko
Admin’s CKEY:
Ruko Famicom
Note Date (YYYY/MM/DD/):
2025/08/07
Note Reason:

Appeal Reason:
I used a DNA injector that was on the floor on brig thinking it was space adapt, but it was telekinisis. Even if I did grab it into genetics that wouldnt make any difference as I never even used it, it was just annoying me.

Regarding the plan to overthrow the military dictatorship, I did what I did because:

  1. It wouldnt make more sense for me to trust a bunch of armed individuals basically overthrowing the station (in my perspective) and acting recklessly to be reasonable. Bear in mind the absurdity of this idea if you dont have the OCC knowlege of what the charachters can do per rules if they’re not antagonists: you’re asking me to just go to a dictator and ask pretty please for him to follow sop and dismantle their power structure. If it was just the warden following this gimmick I would have arranged a meeting, but all of the officers were also alligned with the regime. One of the officers even explicitely sided with the warden: claiming she was the actual legitimate HOS. I wanted to ask two crewmembers for help on stunning the warden with disablers so I could arrest him for ordering executions and disregard for captaincy conduct, that was not necessarily the best approach, but thats what I was trying to do. After that I would have negotiated and dismantled the police state

  2. I was honestly scared

I don’t agree that my actions have been noteworthy especially on a server that allows you to become acting cap and roleplay as a military dictator when the rules say:
“The Captain’s goal is to ensure the safety of their crew and the success of the station as a whole, not to abuse your position and power-trip over the station.”
" The Captain is not permitted to perform regular Security duty. However, they may still assist Security if they see a crime being committed.”

However, I understand that just because I disagree with an admin’s perspective that dosent mean I can ignore it. Therefore, I will try to resort to talking if similar things happen on future rounds.

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I dont think an acting captain should be held to the same standards as an actual, NT sent Captain. My reasoning is that before being assigned by NT the person is briefed and trained to be an actual captain, while an acting captain does not get this training.

This is like assigning an assistant to be an Engineer, they fuck up the SM and it explodes and you go and perma them for grand sabotage.

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As I’m reading the discussions on discord and on the forums it seems there is still a lot of information that is unclear to you and others.

Firstly, I was an officer, not a warden. I spawned at the round start with 2 other seccies and after discussing, between 3 of us, we agreed, that I shall assume the Hos position and through that the Captaincy.

Regarding the “The Captain should not be performing general security duty”, I believe this refrences the main deal with patroling, arresting and actively catching criminals.
It is logical that a Captain should not be on the frontlines and risk his life, this is the head of the station and removal of a commanding officer leads to chaos and anarchy.
I don’t see how you find this to be relavent to my case, as all I did was issued orders and participsted only in cases where I was directly needed, such as securing Lotus.

The tyrant thing…

IC: some crewmembers decided to resist my ascension to Captaincy and seeked to remove me from power. This is a blatant case of subversion of command. While yes, there were no direct attempts on my life, these announcements and mockery from the “Loyalists” had to be dealt with, which is why I made direct threats to punish or jail crewmembers ( I also made this clear to all the crew and privately on security comms, not to over do the sentences, as OOC i know that the revolution should not be possible on such a lowpop).

Because I tried to silence the crewmembers declaring, their loyalty to Lotus, the crew started calling me a Tyrant.

Relawing the AI: While an Ai is another player, it is Ic considered as a valuable item to the station. Losing it or allowing it to be hacked is a terrible loss to Nanotrasen, as well as a huge security risk, due to it having All access. I believe either The Captain or Rd must always make sure, that the AI is actively alligned with the stations goals.
I found that pretty early the AI left its satelite and based on my knowledge was stolen by a random crewmember.

Regarding not trusting security, I believe you did the right thing to question it, as I did hire officers from the public crew (Lars resulted in becoming an officer as a ling).
But taking random crewmembers point at face value, without hearing my point, was a weird play.

Not communicating since round start:
I did notice the prompt, that Hos had arrived and I do believe I made a point at greeting you, though you did not respond neither on Sec nor Command comms. Leaving me to believe that you were either busy fightinf directly with pirates or have fallen this early.

Sorry for the long post, but I did want to share the things that I find missing.

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This is something I should have noticed in logs the first time around, you injected yourself with genetic juice as the first action you took and then said and did nothing else for several minutes. I can confirm the part about it being in genetics was incorrect and that part of the note will be amended.

I still stand by the rest of my thoughts though. This could easily have been ruled as an IC conflict if you had taken steps to address the team you’re supposed to be leading as HoS rather than using force as a first option. You were actually command from the start of the round instead of becoming it out of necessity, so I’m holding you to the full standard of command in this situation.

I’ll leave this open for any other staff opinions, but this is how the note reads right now:

Head of Staff conduct - As a latejoin HoS they hear about the station being under martial law and decide the best course of action is to gather crew on lavaland and overthrow the acting captain and the rest of their own security team without even talking to them about what's going on because they feared for their life. This note is a result of an investigation into a player report: https://forums.beestation13.com/t/police-state-player-report/27181/4

I think this note is accurate to the situation, and that you acted improperly as a commanding officer with authority over security.

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Ruko, I’m noticing a bit of an unintentional double standard. You say that the acting cap should not have been punished for ordering illegal actions (execution for trespassing into the brig) if no harm was done, but the main issue here was that I talked to two people that didnt even do anything afterwards?

Also, I didnt ask them to overthrow anything, I asked two people who were already protesting to help me arrest the acting captain.

“Oh, but you didnt talk to your team”, bro they were literelly part of the regime. If they werent allied with a dictator I would have proudly contacted them for help on dismantling such regime

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Queue: Another Staff Opinion

Staff : Raspberry
Comment : I trust in Ruko’s ability to account for the situation, so going based off information availble the note is fair.
Your train of thought is understandable, fearing that the sec team may be compromised, or apart of the issue and hence wont be able, or the desired people to go against tyranical rule, but ultimately the nature of this game is a cooperative one, where you need to build off information presented. You were not given sufficent reason it sounds as though to believe your officers were beyond approach, which easily could have gone any way.
Everything else is the aftermath of, and less problematic. Between recruiting people on lava land, and overthrowing, they’re good courses of action given your position, and was probably an attempt at ensuring an interesting point to the round on your end, but regardless of good or bad, it only happened because of an assumption rather then interaction. Always try to communicate, when that fails, go nuts.
Final Thoughts: Im just a new min and a moth, i love you all, please enjoy the beautiful weather

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In the original appeal I do state that one of the officers did specifically state that they though that the acting cap was the HOS, not me. I also tried talking to the acting cap before trying to arrest them, and they said that they think that their actions were justified. He knew I was there and made no attempts to pass the power to me or anythint similar, wich makes it very clear they were not going to obey me.

He was also ordering ILLEGAL actions, wich do warrant an arrest at least as a mean to prevent such actions to be taken.

I didnt get anyone’s aid for anything, everything that actually happened I did myself.

I offered disablers to the rebels and tried to make a plan to arrest the acting cap without security’s help, but we did not carry that out.

I also attempted to disable the AI with an emp because they subverted it to follow only the acting cap and their regime.

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Also, I didnt do ir because “it was on martial law”, I did that because it was specifically creating conflict and danger. They also didn’t dismantle it when command arrived, and yes, they knew I had arrived.

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Correction, I did not refuse it, but suggested to postpone it, as the situation was not the best.

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Tbh at this point I dont think you did anything bad. I dont exactly like dictator RP, but that’s just me. Also you were especially nice in the report and here too.

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I didn’t think “stoping conflict and danger” is a point that will get you far in this discussion.

The whole point of roleplaying is conflict

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That dosen’t make any sense. I was the HOS, I’m supposed to supposed to stop conflict. Also, the conflict that I’m talking about is an attempt at mutiny, how is this not something I’m supposed to stop? And I dont think I even need to give an explanation as to why I shouldnt be leaving people in danger, do I?

Cobrador Mascarado Ruko Famicom Report
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You are the one that attempted mutiny during an active attack on the station against the standing leader of the station shortly after you arrived. You did this because you did not fully understand what was going on, which would often make this an understandable and IC mistake.

What makes this not an IC mistake is that you made no effort to ask, understand or communicate first. You drew conclusions from minimal information and I don’t believe you had enough IC justification to skip to such a drastic action without making further attempts to gather information first. I don’t believe you had enough IC reason to fear for your life upon joining.

I’ll go ahead and close this as accepted because an error in the note was modified, but the rest of the note will remain.

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