Calling someone shitsec should be considered netspeak and a banable offence

[Kelpo]

Should I give playing security another chance?

I get the point you’re wanting to make with that but frankly 1: i dont think that’s up to me to determine if I’m shitsec or not and 2: ive noticed people label you shitsec for any reason, stopped that random from ruining the bar to build a fighting pit? Shitsec. Took the contraband away from the assisstant? Shitsec, he wasn’t using for evil. Asked someone to come in for questioning then assumed they’re guilty when they chose death over answering questions? You got it. Shitsec. I honestly thin…

[RKz]

@Kelpo

Crewmembers calling people shitsec or shitcurity seems what a player would do, not a ingame character

This is a bad idea. I’ll hear you out though.

@Kelpo

bad everyone and their mother uses it and its lost pretty much all meaning other than I am mad at this security player

You are making the arguement that because its widely popular and not a fringe case, like literally every other proper netspeak, that it should be filtered?

I understand trying to remove it for RP reasons, but this is an awful start to this post trying to persuade people.

@Kelpo

All the people who I saw use the word, do it in bad faith, contributing nothing,

Great way to alienate the audience. You literally said everyone uses it.

@Kelpo

From my experiments only shitters and self antaggers use it to get a response out of sec

Again, what happened to “everyone and their mother”?

@Kelpo

The term shitsec is more directed at the player, not the ingame character

“You are piece of shit, Security Officer Catgirl”
“You are shitty Security Officer, Catgirl”
“You’re a Shit SecOff.”
“You are a ShitSec.”

A rather simple transition to using as few a words as possible, that still bridges the meaning, no?

Overall, I think you have a bit to work on if you want to provide a persuasive argument.
A good way I have made arguements on this (admittedly pretty shitty) forums in the past is through polls. I will bring it there and we can see how people feel.

[Kelpo]

I invested my skillpoints in others stats rather than speachcraft.

[RKz]

fair 'nuff ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ

[RKz]

[POLL] Do you consider shortened phrases (i.e. shitsec) to be detrimental to the game?

Title. poll poll

[Acronad]

Ah yes the month old post… and i stand by every word i said in it too, shitsec as far as ive seen im my time playing, is used anytime someone feels mildly inconvenienced by security its frustrating but true

I also believe that filtering it will stop it but itll just be replaced by something else quickly, a filter isnt a solution only a patch, unfortunately the solution lies in a much harder problem: getting all the older veteran players to stop using it so new players stop learning it, thus stopping new players from spouting it every time sec intervenes

[zoom9337]

@PierogiMan322

but yeah if shitsec is considered netspeak then so should nukies, benos, revs, rev, lings etc.

yeah

[Hellooo]

@PierogiMan322

should nukies, benos, revs, rev, lings etc

nukies is iffy, but BENOS and REV is totally LRP
Like, put some more effort into rp lol

[Kelpo]

Well for nukies we dont really have a replacement other than syndie operatives, syndicate operative, maybe hostile or eotc, while in in a hurry no many alternatives

Benos is eh, Xenos would kinda fit since we have xenobiology, they technically just aliens, infestation, biohazard, giant lizards

Rev doesnt make sense, mutineers, mutiny, rioters,

Not many names to call them, and dont have many ideas

[Efe]

rather weak attempt at trolling i gotta say

[Syrox01]

shorthands were already declared to be fine when it comes to roles… Short and snappy while conveying information that would be unreasonable to type out fully every time

Nuclear operative - Nukie
Revolutionary - Revs
Revenant - Rev

Head of Secutity - HoS
etc…

Also… embedded within the game and the code itself are numerous examples of Shitsec and Shitcurity being directly referenced IC and OOC… My favourite still being

Sec hailer mode 4 is internally referenced as Shitcurity while Cognac and the clowncar have “Shitcurity” in their descriptions.

Rule 7.5 still exists (dont be a dick), If its use becomes abusive then ahelp it

Overall… LolLmao/10

[itsmeowdev]

I still think shitsec is LRP, but also going to say just because code has something doesn’t mean it’s okay

beecode is terribly unmaintained and has tons of LRP TG relics so

[GiggaGuy2]

yeah,i smell bait

[Squk]

REVS!!!

Like every single person on the station is so used to constant revolution, they started using shorthand.