Byndprincess Player Report

[Varo]

CKEY: Varo10

Your Discord: Varo#1467

Offender’s CKEY: Byndprincess

Offender’s In-Game Name: Cash Hawker

Server (Sage or Acacia): Sage

Date (YYYY-MM-DD): 2023/09/15

Round Number: 45846

Rules Broken: Antagonist conduct, escalation policy

Incident Description: As blood brother in the shuttle saw me critted and after I told him “idiot” because their powergamed into oblivion virus was hurting me with spikes they proceded to start standing there so the spikes would kill me slowly and preventing a medbot from healing me (They even destroyed it). They slice my throat and then try to heal me just so they could keep killing me slowly over and over. I wasnt a target of him at any point and they did all of this just because I called them idiot because they were borderline murdering me while I was in crit state. That fucked all I had planned for the shuttle as an antag myself. And If I’m allowed to say so, I believe 80% the offend was taken so seriously because we don’t like each other a bit OOC and that was the perfect excuse to be an asshole towards me with and justify it with such a minor thing. Lame ass behaviour.

ALSO! They did a blob virus as blood brother! And not only a blob virus. It was a super shitty virus that I can’t put into words what it did cuz I know 0 virology but I can tell you it was not something a blood brother should be doing

[Varo]

Literally NEXT round after this report.

Offender’s CKEY: Byndprincess

Offender’s In-Game Name: Cash Hawker

Server (Sage or Acacia): Sage

Date (YYYY-MM-DD): 2023/09/15

Round Number: 45848

Rules Broken: Antagonist conduct.

Incident Description: They see me in the center of the station on lowpop no security doing a checkpoint and this interaction happens. We had talked a little before through comms and seeing them talking with me in person made me believe they were going to be a huge asshole again. Boy oh BOY was I wrong.

First interaction:

Summary

Cash Hawker says, “What ya building clown.”

You insert 13 glass sheets into the rapid-construction-device (RCD).

The rapid-construction-device (RCD) now holds 160/160 matter-units.

The Real Captain flutters, “A checkpoint.”

You put the glass into Giggles von Honkerton.

[Common] Oliver Siegrist says, “Doc i need healing.”

Cash Hawker says, “Seems slightly annoying.”

You change RCD’s mode to ‘Grilles & Windows’.

You change the rapid-construction-device (RCD)'s window mode to reinforced glass.

The Real Captain flutters, “Well.”

The Real Captain flutters, “Maybe.”

[Common] Oliver Siegrist says, “I have started to glow.”

The Real Captain flutters, “But its my job to create something going on while there is nothing else happening.”

Cash Hawker says, “Seems fair.”

Later, they put some monkeys on the center to annoy me. This happens

Summary

The Real Captain flutters, “…”

The monkey (594) starts trying to take the fire extinguisher from Cash Hawker!

Cash Hawker squirts something into the monkey (594)'s eyes!

The monkey (279) hugs the monkey (279) to make him feel better!

Cash Hawker says, “This is how you be annoying clown.”

You put the rapid-construction-device (RCD) into the toolbelt.

The monkey (594) throws up!

monkey (750) is pricked on Cash Hawker’s spikes.

The monkey (279) starts trying to take the fire extinguisher from Cash Hawker!

You begin to unfasten the railing from the floor…

monkey (594) is pricked on Cash Hawker’s spikes.

You unfasten the railing from the floor.

The Real Captain flutters, “I’ve done that a lot of times.”

The Real Captain flutters, “That is not original.”

You begin to cut apart the railing…

The monkey (750) scratches.

You put the wirecutters into the toolbelt.

The monkey (200) starts trying to take the fire extinguisher from Cash Hawker!

You put the wrench into the toolbelt.

The monkey (275) starts trying to take the fire extinguisher from Cash Hawker!

Cash Hawker says, “Why so.”

The monkey (594) sneezes!

The monkey (279) sniffs.

The monkey (200) snatches the fire extinguisher from Cash Hawker.

You insert 3 iron rod sheets into the rapid-construction-device (RCD).

The rapid-construction-device (RCD) now holds 130/160 matter-units.

You change RCD’s mode to ‘Grilles & Windows’.

You construct the grille.

2

The monkey (200) sniffs.

Bombyx Modesta throws up!

The monkey (279) sniffs.

The monkey (750) sniffs.

Cash Hawker says, “Seems pretty original to me.”

You construct the window.

2

The monkey (279) sniffs.

The monkey (275) scratches.

The Real Captain flutters, “Oh nice now all the monkeys have your stupid disease.”

The Real Captain flutters, “How cool.”

You put the rapid-construction-device (RCD) into the toolbelt.

You grab the monkey (200) passively!

The Real Captain starts putting the monkey (200) into the disposal unit.

Cash Hawker says, “It is pretty cool.”

The monkey (750) sniffs.

The monkey (275) rolls.

Lumps form on the monkey (279)'s skin!

The Real Captain is pricked on Cash Hawker’s spikes.

The monkey (275) sniffs.

The monkey (594) sneezes!

Cash Hawker says, “I feel so.”

The monkey (750) sneezes!

You throw the wrench.

Cash Hawker is hit by the wrench!

The monkey (200) sniffs.

The Real Captain sniffs.

Cash Hawker asks, “Dont you?”

You throw the banana cream pie.

Cash Hawker is hit by the banana cream pie!

Cash Hawker is creamed by the banana cream pie!

The monkey (279) sneezes!

The monkey (594) coughs blood!

2

Lumps form on the monkey (750)'s skin!

Cash Hawker fires the .357 revolver (Wielded)!

2

You’re hit by .357 bullet in the head!

2

The Real Captain screams.

So. I pie them and in exchange of that they shoot me and round remove me using the chef machine! How funny and original. And guess WHAT. The lad did the fucking blob virus AGAIN. And its killing tons of people (remove virology remove virology remove virology). So the guy is round removing earlier on the round and causing virus outbreaks as virologist on a lowpop game, causing blobs and zombies without security. How incredibly cool and definitely antag worthy.

Additional Information: Here’s a video of what happened on the center and some pictures of the state of the station on a 10 people roundstart game with no security. This is BYOND acceptable. Also. They admited on DCHAT that they had DAGD, which inmediatly is a confession that their blob virus last round was unjistified.

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The video of them doing an incredibly interesting and roleplaying orientated assasination 30 minutes into the shift while I was working on something else (I 100% think the metagrudge is real after this shit, they bought the revolver just to kill me instantly and RR me)

[Hugh_Mungus]

The only thing I’d argue is this behavior likely wasn’t just because of OOC dislike, as both the BBs were also trying to murder me for no reason, wordlessly after I spoke to them multiple times trying to give them an opportunity to attack, when I called them out for typebaiting the other guy Brock said “it was part of the gimmick”.

[PinkSuzuki]

@Varo

And If I’m allowed to say so, I believe 80% the offend was taken so seriously because we don’t like each other a bit OOC

If this is true rule 14 also applies as Metagrudging is against the rules…

[PowerfulBacon]

@Varo

They admited on DCHAT that they had DAGD, which inmediatly is a confession that their blob virus last round was unjistified.

But DAGD gives you full permission to go murderbone and kill anyone you want, as long as it leads to your death in a ‘glorious’ way (the interpretation as to what is glorious or not is very generous).

You can’t use a video that shows you dying 2 seconds in as proof that someone was not roleplaying as an antagonist, especially since the person is clearly talking to you prior to the video starting.

I don’t think antagonist conduct was broken in either report, claiming that escalation conduct was broken in the first conduct could probably be argued either way as antagonists follow Lavaland escalation against non-targets as long they aren’t baiting targets into being killed, however round removing people is pretty bad especially in low-pop rounds. Blob virus is a bit shitty just cause viruses are unfun to play against and are indiscriminant in who they infect.

[Varo]

First round they didnt have DAGD but they did the virus also as blood brothers

[magnoliaxoxo]

I am not required to revive you after you call me an insult me. I was an antag and accidentally pricked you while trying to heal you, after that you insulted me right away which I felt was very uncalled for. I dont get how you expect me to be nice towards you while you call me an idiot? The round after where I shot you with the revolver I was with the objective “Die a glorious death”, and you were my target. Since you were my target I decided to gib you yes, but I have every right to do that. You calling me lame and throwing a wrench at my head should not be suprised to get blasted by my revolver, and no it was not bought to murder you it was actually intended for the detective who was onto me. Yet again youre fast to throw out the metagrudging accusation while it has no basis. You cleverly leave out the important detail in the report that you were indeed my target, to me it seems you are biased towards me not the other way around. I do admit on round 45846 it was a mistake to release the virus since it does infect indiscriminantly. I had forgotten to neuter it with the spacecillin or whatever but that was just a honest mistake.

[Varo]

I didn’t even know I threw a wrench at you, I’m pretty sure it wasnt on purpose. But you shot the revolver after the pie, not after the wrench. And yes, I can be your target and bla bla bla. Read the rules.

You instantly killed me and round removed me 30 minutes into the shift with basically no security. You chased the greentext. And then released a deadly virus to fuck the entire round for everyone on lowpop. Everything you are saying doesn’t justify a single thing you did in the reports

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You cleverly leave out the important detail in the report that you were indeed my target

I could have swear I said I was your target after watching the round end report, but it seems I left that out. It wasn’t done on purpose

[Howluinb31153]

While the viruses and other stuff is very clearly worth bringing up to an admin, this isn’t one of those

You were a target. The guy did not come close to you for 30 minutes, and then killed you in the hallways leaving plenty of opportunities for someone to stumble on it
This is one of those antag deaths that, while it could be argued could have been done more tastefully, is absolutely within the rules and is completely allowed.
Did you want him to just not approach you or kill you for 99% of the shift before the shuttle docked ?
That’s not how the game usually goes, and you probably know this. I don’t know why you reported that part.

[Varo]

Because it bad antag etiquette and conduct to round remove someone in a lowpop no security round with almost no prior interaction besides being a dick for 1 minute, you are quoting that part of the rules that goes after the “Ey we don’t like “le gaming” here , please try to make it interesting”.

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killed you in the hallways leaving plenty of opportunities for someone to stumble on it

And people would have uuuuuuuuuuuh… done nothing? report it to a nonexistent command? report it to a nonexistent security? validhunt? what’s your point? We are talking lowpop here, hallways are empty a lot of times.

[aramix]

adding details from the rounds reported as a third party

Round Number: 45846
in this round I was a latejoin chemist and immediately upon arriving I see a station in disarray, with only command being the blood brothers, with roles “goober” and “Hog Rider”

not only is most of medbay non-functional, it becomes outright hazardous because of: lack of air and electrified doors, besides the APCs that were not only lacking charge, but intentionally having equipment disabled; (I was also told the AI intentionally set scrubbers to siphoning, aggravating the station-wide atmos problems)

many of these I have to blame on the AI that round which probably deserves a separate report as none of this was justified by its lawset as far as I can tell

but returning to the virus part:

@Varo

ALSO! They did a blob virus as blood brother! And not only a blob virus. It was a super shitty virus that I can’t put into words what it did cuz I know 0 virology but I can tell you it was not something a blood brother should be doing

@magnoliaxoxo

I do admit on round 45846 it was a mistake to release the virus since it does infect indiscriminantly. I had forgotten to neuter it with the spacecillin or whatever but that was just a honest mistake.

this virus had at least blob spores (reportedly), germs and either sneezing or coughing, being a literal murderbone virus that has caused a lot of unrelated deaths on top of all the hazards previously mentioned
this was released while having only one kill objective and no hijack or DAGD objectives
on lowpop
not to mention that it had a high resistance stat in that it required atropine and later quantum hair dye (nigh unobtainable at this point) to cure, and it was an entire struggle for me and another medic to produce atropine and a vaccine from it without us dying to suffocation, germs or previous wounds
not that it could ever be distributed to the rest of the probably already dead crew or without working tcomms or due to other hazards inducing a general panic sentiment with only reaction being to isolate and hide for individual survival

Round Number: 45848
latejoin observer

@Howluinb31153

and then killed you in the hallways leaving plenty of opportunities for someone to stumble on it

I also do not understand what you mean by this
besides one latejoin mime that coincidentally happened to be a plasmaperson and not be infected by the virus, there were no survivors, the round was simply stalled to a halt with the AI calling the shuttle
the mime’s unfortunate journey consisted only in a trip with a sec off, that later succumbed to the infection, to the armory and back to a pod
besides, the only medbay staff at that moment was the virologist in question, with at most one psychiatrist

you have to understand that lowpop here is aggravated a lot of negative aspects and the dynamic you are talking about simply breaks in such situations

but as far as this goes, murderbone be murderbone I guess, can’t tell how much everyone enjoyed it

[Hugh_Mungus]

“This is one of those antag deaths that, while it could be argued could have been done more tastefully,”

The only issue with this is once they had AI fight literally everyone with lethals it started blowing people up, I walked past multiple gibbed and round removed people in the first round that weren’t targets and had no chance of revival because these guys went gamer mode.

Ironically the virus method would of been cleaner in this regard.

[yorii]

Byndprincess Player Report?! Again? How cool!

They have been permabanned [image]

[Not_a_Shark]

As mentioned

This players has recived a permanent ban for similar grief
Thanks for the report.