I did it for largely mental health-related reasons
oh ok, well I think most people here still think you deserve ownership and all. If we normalize that making mistakes is not ok then we might as well ban everyone now.
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You’re joking right. Three suspensions (fourth is the perma on top of the existing month one), 64 deleted posts, in-game bans for filter bypass already and very blatant spam of bypass.
I would screencap his deleted posts if I could, but I’ll offer this instead:
This is what he got. Not perma, not first offense.
See above. Perma was not applied for his spam or a simple joke. He got a long ban and he ban evaded to proclaim himself a racist. Ban evasion by itself warrants a perma in most cases - BettonnCZ’s evasion was forgiven due to confusion I caused by not being clear.
At the time he did this he was the highest ranking person in the discord making him completely immune to the softban function. Softban serves as a combined warning, ten minute mute and deletion of recent messages. What part of that still seems necessary outside of symbolism that he’s been softbanned?
Do you want me to softban him for symbolic reasons…? The message that what he did was unacceptable has already been delivered ten times over so I don’t see the point here.
Okay, I was wrong he had 2 filter bypass bans. I don’t know anything behind the “64” deleted posts. They could be racist, they could be spam. Also he evaded (at least on forums) to make an appeal which isn’t wrong by itself.
You also ignored my comment about banning someone for beliefs not for his actions.
He literally posted racist shit. That’s not banning for beliefs alone.
And he got banned for 33 days.
And then he removed the possibility for those to be taken as a joke with what looked like a serious post to me, about as serious as I’ve ever seen him be.
My point still stands, you banned him for saying that’s he’s a racist. You can’t ban people for beliefs, only for actions. He received rather justified 33 day ban for actions and permaban for “im racist” in ban appeal.
Also posting the image that Kev posted doesn’t make him pedophile, same as joe saying n word in rather jokingly manner doesn’t make him racist.
Oof im sorry to hear that
Also the argument that “he posted racist shit” is debatable.
I will be rescinding control of the patreon, and I also no longer have my position as project lead.
This changes nothing. This solves nothing. The intention is noble, but the act in of itself is pointless.
The problem was not that Kevster was in charge and that he needs to leave, the problem was that the rules are unpopular and that the complaints are never addressed regarding these rules.
If anything, Kev leaving makes it worse because the rules are not gonna change and the solutions proposed by the staff do not satisfy the community.
It’s obvious that the community wants a change in these rules and, that the workarounds will delay and displease, instead of solving the issue in any way. Kev didn’t have to get canceled; the rules just need a change.
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The administration is flawed.
If we were to follow the current rules, half the playerbase would be banned and Bee would be dead.
Don’t act like he’s the only one being treated with a shinier spoon than your average spessman. Some people are able to break the rules through loopholes and/or people willing to turn the cheek. You know who you are. Some of you are even in this thread. Some of you aren’t administration. Get over it, or else you’ll end up like Robespierre, and dig your own grave.
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This is actually the most ironic thing about all of this. The very people who started this crusade have done similar or even worse things. Well beyond just Kate. People discontent with the SJW type position this community is going. But Kev has consistently been more of a moderate on these positions. By their successful attack and dethronement of Kev this will only push the server further to the left the most notable moderate voice has now just been lost.
We can only expect more restrictions on behaviors and harsher punishments to come to fruition now. By lynching Kev they’ve shot themselves in the foot.
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bruh moment
kev literally left by himself, and the majority of people didnt attack him. he largely left because of “mental health related reasons”
the “very people who started this crusade” have done worse things than posting lolicon beastiality? id like to see you back this up bro if it’s apparently well beyond just kate, i.e more than one or two people
why do you say this like its a good thing bruh bruh
whens the last time kev has actually done anything in terms of the current situation? if he has he hasnt been very public about it
Don’t argue with the troll, she “claims to think” that SS13 is a game for children and that the server and rules should act as such, and that somehow this is all an SJW plot that removed “the only moderate voice” or something
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Instead of realization of the mistake made, like “Yeah, we kinda have gone too far with the censorship we better roll it back” you go with this hypocrisy. A non-punishment that does not even compare to what regular members of the community got to enjoy. And it seems that if given the choice of either yeet yourself entirely or admitting this push for more censorship was a mistake you’d rather yeet yourself.
This will not end well. Because purity spiral never ends.
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I have had no part in instating this “push for more censorship” and while I would prefer they are rolled back, it isn’t up to me anymore.
I wish people stopped acting like this was in any way an attempt to preserve the current ruleset, or preserve the “censorship.”
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I always found you to be a rational voice on these issues. Sadly those with agendas will always push their own narrative and try to paint you as whatever they desire you to be. Won’t be long before people start painting you as having outlandish positions on both sides of the fence.
look alright i get it these new rules were mostly put into place because the big daddies in discord will discord moment all over the beecord otherwise
but holy hell some admins are JUST a bit overzealous about this
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