Waifuthread Head Banned By astriker

CKEY: waifuthread

Admin’s CKEY: astriker

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: sage

Which server did the ban happen on? sage

Ban Type: Head Ban

Ban Length: 2 weeks x2, originally 1 month

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 04/28/2020

Round ID: 15258

Ban Reasons:

“Head incompetence as CE on MRP, Dosent know atmos or how to set up the SM, left department to go argue with other heads. -edited ban reason”,

“Disregard of MRP rules, played CE, dident set up the SM because they didnt know how, instead decided to use their tools to break into the captain’s office and beg for their spare.”,

“Head incompetence as CE on MRP, Dosent know atmos or how to set up the SM, left department to go argue with other heads.”

Appeal Reason: This admin completely misunderstood most of what i was saying to him while the ticket was open, either willingly ignoring it for a ban reason, taking unrelated situations and pinning them onto me, or just neglecting to even take the situation into account. I know how to set up supermatter, i just dont do it because im terrible at it, the two times in the past that i have set up supermatter, it delaminated. so at this point i avoid doing it, and i still say it’s better to get a role ban for not setting it up, than getting a role ban for doing it wrong and having it delaminate.

In addition, i never left the department to go start issues, i had left with a BSRPED with tier 4 parts in it to upgrade things, assuming supermatter had already been set up, as it was approximately 20 minutes into the round (maybe a bit less), and typically supermatter is set up by that point. after doing some parts, i got told caps office got hacked into, i went to try and fix it, bolts were down while door was open, never had any luck fixing that before so i asked a borg to fix it, cap entered the room, i asked once if i could have his spare, he said no, so i left. went to bridge, checked comms console, cap had left it logged in on the shuttle page, i ask the crew what shuttle they want, then HOS comes in, stuns me, causing me to take damage from slamming into a wall, then HOS logs out of console and claims i was trying to cause issues.

Admin intentionally then described things in a way that would put me in a bad light, even to the point of where they lied and said “decided to use their tools to break into the captain’s office and beg for their spare”, in the case of me being near caps office after i was asked to go fix the doors there, this is very scummy admin behaviour and should on its own cast doubt on the entire ban

Additional Information: while this entire lovely exchange was going down, i got murderboned by 2 people and i couldn’t ahelp it because i was ahelp muted, even post round, so i couldnt even do anything anyways, people still were upset in common at me that supermatter wasn’t set up.

also, this has, as far as i am aware, put 3 seperate notes on my remarks page, making me seem like a troll head player rather wrongfuly

Then don’t play CE because you should know how to do it correctly

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wait if you know how to set-up the supermatter then why does it keep delaminating? that doesn’t seem like you know how to set it up

don’t play a head role unless you know alot about the department and can handle being a head of staff

i always forget things while setting it up, like setting the filter to remove o2 not n2, or one filter not being turned on, or a freezer not turned on, always something small that i never notice that messes it up

Generally you don’t set up filters to remove n2, nor you set up freezers while doing SM.
It means you should play a lot of engie/atmos, and then play CE, because with your incompetence you are just ruining entire department, and possibly station.

Then I can not stress this enough, learn how to do it without failing, even if you have to look at the wiki, AND DO YOUR JOB CORRECTLY BECAUSE YOU SIGNED UP FOR IT.

meta station atmosphere alarm is set to remove n2 by default

waifuthread, stop defending your actions
we’re trying to help you
you’re doing things wrong, we’re providing feedback on how you can improve
stop digging this hole deeper

First of all, it isn’t set up to remove N2, it’s set to remove some gases. Second, while first filter is set up to filter N2 TO the main loop, the rest isn’t, and any filter turned off means you are just delamming SM.

wiki is outdated for metastation, it doesnt mention needing to set the filter to o2, got told this the first time i tried setting up the supermatter, it might be changed now, but when i set up supermatter for the first time, it was by default set to filter out n2

You DO NOT set any filter to O2, unless you know what you are doing, you DO NOT want O2 in your SM.

If you really don’t get simple things like that, please play more engie and use mentorhelp. With my experience I will be glad to help you, just leave the CE role for someone experienced.

Er wait, it’s the atmosphere alarm in the supermatter in metastation thats set to take n2 out of the supermatter i think, or it was, got scrubbers and filters confused, but yeah, o2 was set to not siphon in the atmosphere alarm by default the first time i did supermatter on metastation

No, air alarm should be set to siphon EVERYTHING, filters are to filter out gases that you want to stay in the loop. Neither of these should be set to O2 if you don’t intend to do it.

Air alarm is set to basic shit, as any alarm on the station, to siphon everything except for N2, O2, miasma, and water vapor i think.

The ban reason was edited due to a misunderstanding, to clarify, you were headbanned for 2 weeks due to head incompetence, you played CE without knowing how to do the basic job functions. The best place to go learn a role is on LRP (where you arent headbanned)

Yeah, but the wiki for metastation doesn’t say you need to change anything in it, it says, and i quote directly, “Set the air alarm AirAlarm.png next to the crystal room. Open the air alarm menu (on most maps it will start unlocked), click Scrubber Controls and change the scrubbers to siphon (by clicking “scrubbing”) and Expanded Range. You don’t need to change any of the filter settings besides the mode, since on “siphon”, all gases get sucked out. The scrubbers will show an animation if they are set up to siphon correctly. Do NOT set operating mode to “panic siphon” as that’s not the same thing. Picture (click it):”

it explicitly says you do not have to change any settings in the filters, even though i did set the scrubbers to siphon, oxygen had gotten into the supermatter in that setup. after the first time i tried setting it up, i didnt try from round start again.

If you still don’t know, I suggest testing things in a private server to figure out how to set up the SM and find any mistakes you made. To be fair, I still have no idea how to set it up either.

Oxygen is in SM chamber because SM crystal produces oxygen and plasma. Air alarm has to be set to siphon as it exclusively controls vents and scrubbers inside SM chamber, there are other filters that need to be turned on outside of chamber.

Two questions:

  • Why play Chief Engineer when you don’t have at least working knowledge of all aspects of engineering?

  • Why the hell would you need the captain’s spare ID, let alone need to break into his office and beg for it?

Alright, by reading your replies I can tell that you have no idea about SM loop. Here is the basic condiations for a basic SM loop:
-siphon ALL OF THE DAMM GAS
-you don’t use freezers until they are upgraded, unupgraded freezers are of no use to SM
-you want to only let N2 in, set one filter to N2 and the rest to none
-all pumps should be active and set to max, except 3 of them:
Atmo to SM loop, the one that connects siphons pipes to vent pipes (this one is active on start) and the one that spaces the unfiltered gases
-for more speed remove the pumpes and replace them with pipes, also remove the filter that filters gas to 2 canisters if you don’t want to save any gas. You might be asking “how the hell will loop work without pumps”. Trust me, it works faster and I had a hardtime accepting that as well

You can play enginboi one round and ask CE to explain this shit to you. Unless he wants to turn SM into a disco ball by plasma setup, uh dear god…

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To add some more general tips, just keep in mind the idea of the SM. What you’re trying to do is collect the radiation from it to generate energy while using the cold vacuum of space to cool the gas down in order to keep the SM intact. It’s why people remove the cooling loop bypass pump, it just destroys that entire idea. Excessive pumps also slow the cooling process. For the freezers, you won’t really need them unless you’re trying a complicated SM setup in which case you should have already experimented with it before trying it live.