Incident Description:
As security officer decided it would be funny to break into cargo and spend over 50 thousand credits of the budget on biker kits and contraband crates.
Additional Information:
This player seems to exclusively play command and security and pulls extremely asinine LRP shit as said roles every single round.
OOC: VICIOUS O REILLY: dude i have 2 open player reports against me, one from some guy mad i arrested them and another from a genuine schizophrenic
OOC: VICIOUS O REILLY: player reports dont mean shit
Enjoy, you have three now
In Dchat, i heard about this, but was getting conflicting versions of the story. One where Spindel made the order, and one where Ward made the order. I didn’t look into it so I don’t know much more than that, but i figured it was worth adding.
Yep, and it doesn’t look good for the punishment when you have gain three different player reports within a little over the same week. Just gonna bump this one slightly so we don’t get another 4 reports about the same persons shitty behavior @GameAdmin
Is this report a genuine statement that you don’t think I floowed the server rules, or is it just because you didn’t like my OOC in the next round? I did the bounties near-solo, bought chef gear for the only other player that helped first (a moth chef who I cleaned out of meat asking for a hot dog and nuggets box), and then spent about 20k of the 30k i brought in on security gear. I didn’t open any boxes I didn’t have access to which was most of them (the warden was doing dumb brig drama all round and didn’t get around to moving them to armory) so I left them in cargo with the manifests so they could be refunded if anyone joined as cargo. All i took was a quadbike, a box of stingbangs, a gold necklace and a lifeweed leaf. Lifeweed was the only thing I got actual use out of.
As for the player reports, no they are not serious. Just look at snootypip’s weird shit which they have dragged into this thread for some reason also. Admins make the calls, I don’t have patience for backseat adminning. It feels like these reports are only going up so that the regular peanut gallery can post insults at me, since that’s what keeps happening.
Also since Ward got mentioned, I saw them be the recipient of weird brig drama and I avoided that whole thing because it wasn’t interesting. They didn’t like the HoS and got 15 minutes for “dereliction”. They weren’t involved in anything I did and I have no idea what the whole situation there was. That’s it.
This is correct, just like if you’re assigned medical you get revived immediately by the paramedic without having to ask, and if you’re assigned science RnD will throw gamer gear at you for little reason. Being in cargo means that in an emergency situation like xenos, you can tell the cargonians exactly what’s needed and also usually be the first person fully armed to deal wih the threat.
Nowhere is that a rule or even a practiced norm here on Bee. I barely even see other sec offs give a shit about what department you’re assigned to, let alone non sec crew members.
It happens all the time, like getting space adapt is basically just an issue of whether or not a geneticist runs into you, thus medical seccies get it most rounds and other seccies get it less often. It’s an inevitible part of spending time in one department. You’re given an armband, department comms and basic access because you’re supposed to get a feel for the people in the department, and help them during downtime.
You are very adept at obfuscating the truth. You mass-ordered junk at least two times. You bought apparently seventy thousand credits worth of trash, dragged it all into cargo bay, never used it, and never returned it.
No midjoiner is going to walk into cargo, see nukie volumes of locked armory access crates, and do anything with them. They shouldn’t be expected to. As a child, were you never taught to clean up your own mess?
Yes.
Why did you order anything at all? That isn’t your job. A medical-assigned security officer isn’t expected to revive people or set up synthflesh. A science-assigned security officer isn’t expected to research or tend slimes. You had no business touching the cargo console at all. You’re a security officer. Do YOUR job.
Bounties you do aren’t your personal funds just because you bothered to walk your ass to security for shotguns and back. They’re for the STATION.
In an emergency situation like xenos you would have fucking doomed the round.
So now it’s 70k. Buddy the cargo budget never got anywhere near that high so I have no idea what you’re basing any of this complaint on. Maybe wait for logs before throwing around big numbers?
This is bullshit, as sec you need to keep everyone safe. That means making the occasional order at cargo for armory supplies and especially means you’re supposed to save peoples lives if you get the chance. You are not expected to never use CPR or epi pens no matter who is dying around you, it’s asanine to think that sec isn’t allowed to use any of it because it’s “med gear”. There’s also nothing wrong with a sec officer buying a first aid kit at medbay’s public nanomed and saving it to use if someone’s dying.
I don’t know the details of any of the rounds, but uh, no that’s not how it goes. Regardless of where you are assigned you are a security officer, not a member of that department and you shouldn’t be deciding what to order or placing orders, and you definitely shouldn’t be trying to stock up on cargo’s lethal guns just because you started there.
There’s a difference in receiving prompt medical treatment because you’re in medbay and raiding medbay supplies.
Conditions in the round can change whether or not seeking guns is justified, but here’s the rule that is important to you as a stationed security officer:
Access to a department does not imply authorization. Just because you managed to gain access to a room or department does not mean you have permission to be inside of it nor steal its equipment. Low-level trespassing or theft is an IC crime, excessive theft or stealing important equipment is self-antagging.
You aren’t entitled to cargo as a security officer just for being stationed there.
Then please stop accusing me of rules violations until you see logs. This shit is constant, and I am sick of the peanut gallery full of nerds who have an axe to grind posting about shit they know nothing about every single one of these reports, and I’m sick of snootypip’s schizoposting and obsession with me. There’s a reason I’m not taking whining from forum randos very seriously.
I posted a quote of you believing you are entitled to cargo guns just for being stationed in cargo. This is objectively wrong and against the rules - you are entitled to weapons given to you by the players in charge of the armory, or weapons taken in an emergency situation.
Because I don’t know whether there was an emergency situation, I never accused you of breaking the rules, I left it as relevant information because it shows the mindset you are playing with and will be factored into punishment if you are ordering and taking equipment just because you feel like it and happen to be in cargo.
I don’t know you and I don’t know the conflicts you’re having with other players - You have hundreds of hours here and no bans, that speaks for itself unless you’ve been getting a ton of “well, don’t do it again” notes. I just post because I’m bored and have old admin habits, not out of some personal vendetta.
Alright, sorry that this took an absolute eternity to get resolved
Basically, after having a look at the logs I agree all the listed rules were broken
R1 (You must roleplay) - This was a fairly minor rulebreak, but still, using your access to cargo to just take their job away from them is bad roleplay
R3 (Do your job) - The main problem here was the “let other’s do their jobs” part, if you signed up to be security, don’t try to be a cargo tech
R9 (Self-Antag) - ‘Access to a department does not imply authorization,’ much the same as the R3 break, using cargo just to order armory equipment for yourself is not allowed