CKEY:
typicalassistant
Admin’s CKEY:
ro5490
Ban Type:
Game ban
Ban Length:
2024-07-19 19:36:41
Ban Date (YYYY/MM/DD/):
2024-07-16 19:36:41
Round ID:
49324
Ban Reason:
As a non-antag explo, used a mech to space a good chunk of the escape shuttle because “we needed space”. Resulting in quite a large amount of dead players.
Appeal Reason:
I believe there’s been a mistake
Additional Information:
What the ban description doesn’t mention is that we got small one tile shuttle and I was at the beginning of it in a mech and I couldn’t move forward or backwards and people got stuck so I made some room so everyone could fit and if somebody doesn’t know how to use emergency oxygen tank then I don’t believe their death should be pinned on me specifically, more lives was saved than lost so it’s more of a collateral really, I should be receiving gratitudes not bans
Who should it be pinned on then…? They were safe prior to their expose to space, not to mention being unable to use the oxygen tank isn’t what will kill you, the vacuum of space will.
Saved from what?
I’d like to point out that prior to this, you kept a door to a super heated pyro anomaly room open, almost killing an SSD bystander and me. All while the cyborg and myself were telling you to move multiple times.
Who should it be pinned on then…? They were safe prior to their expose to space, not to mention being unable to use the oxygen tank isn’t what will kill you, the vacuum of space will.
Nobody? Do you just give out bans because there’s a quota? Also vacuum kills fairly slow
I’d like to point out that prior to this, you kept a door to a super heated pyro anomaly room open, almost killing an SSD bystander and me. All while the cyborg and myself were telling you to move multiple times.
I had trauma because I killed a guy, I’m just an exploration crew employee, I’m pretty sure I was also saying stuff there. And I’m pretty sure there was no fire anymore so literally nothing was happening
I’m not an admin, I was the Roboticist who gave you the mech and also yelled at you a bunch when you wouldn’t let the door close.
This is no excuse to cause others direct harm. “The poison is slow, you’ll be fine!”
That’s not how gases work. Hot air stays hot, keep doors closed and don’t use your drill to destroy firelocks. I was on the brink of going into crit and the other guy did go into crit.
That’s not how gases work
Well I don’t know how gases work, am I a bad person for this?
This is no excuse to cause others direct harm. “The poison is slow, you’ll be fine!”
Your comparison actually does work, you need the poison to be doing something good though - like antibiotics, which absolutely kill everything they touch, but at the same time are very useful in moderation and/or localized to specific areas. Yes, they are slow and yes you’ll be fine.
Also this ro5490 guy is on a killing spree, he got 3 people in one hour including me, and as far as I’m looking at ban list this is unprecedented amount of bans in a single hour. Though honestly I wouldn’t even care if I wasn’t the second guy lol
You actively spaced the escape shuttle with no warning to the crew onboard.
You claimed it was because they needed space and you had the tools to make that space.
Yet instead of not bringing the mech onboard the rather small shuttle, you brought it onboard, and took out most of the wall so you and supposedly the rest of the crew could move around a little more.
This resulted in not only a decent chunk of people dying, but people being shunted off the shuttle into space mid flight.
Even if you where an antag, Collateral of this size would not be allowed unless it directly resulted in the completion of one of your objectives as it would be classed as a High Impact action.
You where the one to breach the shuttle wall and expose the other players to open space, causing all the air to escape the shuttle and people to be shunted off into space.
How would you be able to tell if they even had a full tank on them? Some might have had to use their tank earlier in the round. Some might have hopped on the shuttle and gone semi-afk because they thought it would be safe enough. Some might just not have reacted in time.
Your actions caused a large amount of player death, that is all that matters here. Not their reaction time or if they knew how to use a tank or not.
Because it hasn’t been pointed out - there’s a lot more to spacing an area than just the lack of oxygen in the room. Even with o2, the pressure will kill most players who don’t have bodily protection.
You actively spaced the escape shuttle with no warning
Now you are just saying stuff. There was a warning, I did say I will make some room prior to making some room
instead of not bringing the mech onboard the rather small shuttle, you brought it onboard
I thought it was going to be a passage to the shuttle, not the shuttle itself and didn’t think shuttle would be so small, my bad here I admit
Even if you where an antag, Collateral of this size would not be allowed unless it directly resulted in the completion of one of your objectives as it would be classed as a High Impact action.
I killed a few to save many, so the shuttle could fit all the people. I chose lesser evil for a greater cause, can you really blame me for that?
You where the one to breach the shuttle
I thought we already talked throught it, it was a necessary action
How would you be able to tell if they even had a full tank on them? Some might have had to use their tank earlier in the round.
Your actions caused a large amount of player death, that is all that matters here. Not their reaction time or if they knew how to use a tank or not.
So I am the one to blame if they didn’t fill up their oxygen tanks? If the entire crew rushes to ordnance at the moment of the explosion do you blame the scientist for their deaths?
Jesus christ do you guys read through the thread before replying?
There was more to the discussion, you should probably scroll up and read that
Everyone other than you seems to disagree.
Everyone other than you seems to disagree.
Let’s not turn this into farce, while we might not have the same opinions on stuff I think we can all agree that what I did was unavoidable for a good resolution
I’ll save Ro the trouble here and show you the door since you seem to just be here to cause issues.