Because if a current non-human would harm a present human, then you can’t act against them, thus human harm.
The AI is just watching out for its humans, yo.
Also, the real issue is you trusting the RD on what he was going to upload, because that could have just been a lie from the RD.
It’s in the silicon policy that you can’t assume malice without reason to.
Are you seriously going to trust a non human?
(Calm your ass, this is more of a joke.)
If that reasoning can’t be applied, then ok; but the second part
“Trusting the RD on what he was going to upload, because that could have just been a lie from the RD.”
is still important.
You may deny access to areas under probable cause. Probable cause is listed as:
Probable cause includes presence of confirmed traitors, cultists/tomes, nuclear operatives, or any other human acting against the station in general; the person not having upload access for their job; the presence of blood or an openly carried lethal-capable or lethal-only weapon on the requester; those who meet a condition of your laws (eg. If you have a law stating only the captain can access upload, than all other players have probable cause) or anything else of this nature.
If you do not have probable cause and deny access, you are liable to be banned or warned.
You are allowed, but not obligated, to deny access if probable cause exists. You are, however, obligated to disallow access for individuals you know to be conflicting your laws.
If you don’t have probable cause that the RD is going to do something bad, you must let them into upload unhindered.
Without evidence or rumor of the RD planning to do bad, you can’t assume them to be bad.
From personal experience, when it comes to “He’s saying he’s going to upload a bad law”, it’s much better to tell them to change what they’re going to upload (Hinting that they should lie) to avoid having an entire round’s focus shift to “MALF AI XDDD”
Every time they kept insisting they’re going to upload a guaranteed human harm law (Nukies not human), I just keep telling them no so the entire round transitions into AI vs that one guy.
If the RD says that the Captain is going to upload X, then that’s just hearsay (Right?)
Most that crewsimov is, is cringe, sadly.
[2020-07-19 04:45:02.641] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Blueturbo47/(Collin Blue) with the electrode from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 74.6) (AI Upload Chamber (102, 152, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:02.642] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the electrode from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (101, 154, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:02.645] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the electrode from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (97, 154, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:02.645] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the electrode from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (96, 152, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:04.167] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the electrode from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (102, 152, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:04.168] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the electrode from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (101, 154, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:04.170] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the electrode from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (97, 154, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:06.160] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the electrode from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (101, 154, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:11.817] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(ANCESTOR) has enabled lethals on [AI Upload turret control] (AI Chamber (214, 143, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:12.684] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (102, 152, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:12.685] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Blueturbo47/(Collin Blue) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 74.6) (AI Upload Chamber (101, 154, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:12.686] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (100, 149, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:12.687] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Blueturbo47/(Collin Blue) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 74.6) (AI Upload Chamber (98, 149, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:12.689] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Blueturbo47/(Collin Blue) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 54.6) (AI Upload Chamber (97, 154, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:12.689] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Blueturbo47/(Collin Blue) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 54.6) (AI Upload Chamber (96, 152, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:14.211] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (102, 152, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:14.212] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Blueturbo47/(Collin Blue) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 34.6) (AI Upload Chamber (101, 154, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:14.213] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (100, 149, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:14.214] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Blueturbo47/(Collin Blue) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 34.6) (AI Upload Chamber (98, 149, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:14.216] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Blueturbo47/(Collin Blue) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 34.6) (AI Upload Chamber (97, 154, 2))
[2020-07-19 04:45:14.217] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at fearchan/(Max Caswell) with the laser from AI Upload Chamber (NEWHP: 100) (AI Upload Chamber (96, 152, 2))
May as well post these here as well, since they prove the fact the turrets were already targetting the human HoP before they were swapped to lethals.
i mean they are none humans and from what i am geting they may had plans to upload bad laws and didn’t state which laws they where gonna upload and that ban time is too long for a lrp round (like what 29 days i am guessing),also kate doesn’t seem like a horrible player and i think they should atleast have i not know 16 to 27 days ban as ai and borg?
Yes i swaped from lethals to stun, hop exited upload after being stuned and a catgirl whit AA entered.
I ONLY turned lethals on when nonhumans where on the upload, hop entered it while thein turrets where shooting out of his own will.
Max Caswell is human.
Electrodes fire at human
Lethals enable
Lasers fire at human
Turrets had line of sight on human the whole time
Edit:o my bad, but look at the time bettewn the human being stuned n hit
Correct. However Collins is not the only one your turrets were focused on when you set them to lethal, and was not the only one in upload at the time.
Collins was the only inside thats why i turned lethals, maxwell came inside and got hit YOU CAN SEE I TURNED THOSE OFF AFTER HE GOTHIT ONCE AND TOLD HIM TO NOT DO THAT AGAIN
Turrets have a 2 second timeoutafter activationwhere they search for a target, maxwell entered upload just as theturrets where opening and got hit by one or two lasers
Ruko if i remember right isn’t felinds considered part of human crew?
No, felinids are not human.
Anything that appears human is considered to be until proven otherwise though; a felinid that hides their ears/tail via customization is human to the AI until someone pulls up medical records and sells them out.
And I swear that exact example used to be on the wiki
I mean, In kate’s defense she had no intentions to lethal him.
Thats whya lings “ARENT” human or crew, they are a monster using a crewmember skin as a suit
So, shitty AI calls out Trialmins over not knowing silicon policy. Gets it shoved back into their face that they have it wrong. This right here is what i feel like is a major issue, overly arrogant people know-it-all types that bend the rules so hard to what fits them the most in whatever current situation they are in.
First time AI and you do / say all this? Yeah okay.
Its called rule lawyering,aiis allowed to dothat. Imnot lettinghumans make NORE things humans because the chances of harm increase
With that logic, you can use literally every single excuse ever no matter how weak the argument is to just not let anyone upload any more laws. As far as i can tell, you were first time AI thinking you knew the policy better than the Trialmins, got called out and now you’re trying to bend the story / reasoning so hard it is starting to make no sense at all. That entire reasoning is equal to dumb things like “Yeah i decided to plasma flood Security because they typically cause a lot of harm, therefore i must kill them.”
No, some laws cause more harm thatothers,is not a weak argument making MORE things human literally would cause harm VERY direct harm
The human that you say “must trust” tried tohe onehumanme after someone set me to cresimov soo. No