Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): I do not recall the exact date.
Ban Reason: Achieved 3 points of warns.
Appeal Reason:
First warn: I said ■■■■■■■■■, which beebot deleted. When I pointed out that my message was deleted, someone asked me what I posted, and I said “Mongol with something after it.” That counted as a filter bypass, apparently. My clown ass thought that “■■■■■■■■■” has a very different definition that what it actually means. No idea how I mixed that up, definitely wouldnt have said it if I knew.
Second warn: Said “You should kill yourself, now!” Fair enough. I just guessed the meme was passable due to its 300 instances and the people saying it not being persecuted any. But, again. Fair enough.
Third warn: Cropped porn as pfp. The pfp was a non-ahegao, blushing kobold. Again, I thought it was fine since I saw a few people that definitely had cropped porn as their pfp and didnt get slapped for it.
Additional Information: I am basically appealing all of these warns at once. Beebot doesnt let me use ?mywarnings in the eternal hell that is salt mines, so I apologize for not getting the admin names.
In the end, I suppose I did break the rules. I am aware which rules I broke, and I am sorry that I did.
It is in reference to a very outdated anthropological science (back when racial grouping were oddly popular) that classified humans into “Caucasoid, Negroid, and ■■■■■■■■■”.
Historians generally grouped humans by typological before the discovery of DNA and genomes. A colloquial from this outdated still exists in the form of calling whites, “causcasian”.
So yeah, outdated terms that get picked up by 4chan nerds and spread around. This is probably the simplest warn to get rid of depending on how old it is.
Who enforced this? This is an everyday thing that’s said. Did anyone else receive a punishment for that?
You got slapped yet the permabanned ex-admin is untouched. Strange.
There was an ancient discussion about this back on the discord. The content of a pfp or anything you post should only be judged by what it displays. Here’s why.
The argument against having it is that you can’t be showing random people porn even if we’re 18+.
However, if you post cropped porn, only people who have seen the porn already or decided to specifically search up your pfp will be aware of it. This means that they have already seen the source, which makes what your pfp does redundant for them, since the source is pornographic but the pfp is not. It also means that what they see is a result of their actions, be it their past actions or their actions after seeing the pfp.
A person who has not seen the source and/or doesn’t research the pfp simply sees a somewhat suggestive image. This is not against the rules if not explicit.
Or, in short, the actions people take when they see a lewd pfp are their own fault. As long as the pfp doesn’t contain explicit material, it means that it isn’t porn, and that the person who has it is not responsible.
Posting cropped furry porn to prove a point
If you think this image (not the full source image) breaks community guidelines, please speak up and point out the part that does it.
So, basically.
For the first warn, I had no idea what the word actually means, and thought it means something else entirely, now I know that it refers to a ethnicity. I do find it quite ironic that the other two names aren’t blotted, especially the one that gets close to the gamer word.
Second warn, I mean, yeah, it is agaisn’t the rules because saying “kill yourself” is bad. On the other hand, the meme was posted in such quantities that getting punished for it with a pointwarn feels unfair.
For the third warn, again, many people posted cropped porn as memes and had cropped porn as their pfps, and didn’t get slapped. So I feel like a pointwarn wasn’t really warranted.
In the end, I suppose getting only one off me is enough to get me below 3 points and unmuted, but I do still feel a bit weird about all of them.
In the UK. It is a slur to people with downs syndrome and other genetic diseases that cause different/odd appearance/actions. This usage outdates the internet.
Which itself derives from the belief that those affected by Down’s Syndrome (Trisomy 21) resembled Mongolians. Thus the usage goes full circle back to Göttingen.
Its perhaps better in Elchorico’s interest that an admin handle this appeal rather than a lengthy and unique discussion on the history of Racial Prejudice.
I’d argue that warn(the no no m word) is inexcusable. It’s been done to death, there’s no debate on it, short of amnesty due to passage of time.
The OTHER two (PFP/Common Meme) are not really warn worthy imho.
Perished covers the PFP one perfectly. We have a former permabanned admin with an equivalent PFP who is not given issues and occasionally toes the line in other ways.
The meme is really just… stupid.
I’ve definitely made reference to it with no issue, only thing that would also make it inexcusable is timing(IE: incident predates the meme by a significant margin) or context(IE: saying this when aggressively screaming at someone, or immediately after doing so).
Funnily enough, I feel almost exactly the opposite to most of what you’ve said. Somebody using a bad word without knowing how offensive it is is believable, and they’re unlikely to find out ahead of time because any usages of it are likely to be redacted. In this situation, as long as they acknowledge what they did wrong, promise not to repeat the mistake, and keep a clean record on that front, I see no reason to punish them for it.
The meme, if I understood correctly… I’d say isn’t an excuse. This is a tough topic, and I come from the perspective of not knowing this meme, but telling somebody to kill themselves is an obvious thing to avoid for anybody with common sense. Ultimately it’s up to the admins for what types of jokes they want to allow, but if they don’t want people saying things like that, I think it doesn’t matter if it’s a meme.
The obvious difference between these two is, one is a word that you very well might not know the full meaning of, and the other is a plain english sentence that’s highly offensive in a simple way if taken literally.
I do have to agree Perished makes a great point about the PFPs though, even if I don’t like it :^)
In the end, I care most about the pfp warn because that one seems the most unfair. I should clarify that I also changed my pfp after someone pointed out that its agaisnt the rules, and I got warned when I already had a “SFW” pfp, a photo of a raven.
For the “kill yourself” meme, I mean, yeah, that breaks the rules for obvious reasons, as telling someone to kys shouldnt be done in any context.
For the word, eh… I feel bad about it, since I really thought it means a very different thing, and the “filter bypass” was me just being confused about it. But I guess it counts as a filter bypass if were going for the absolute literal.
There is precedent for this being enforced and quite harshly, most such precedent involves cases where it is not joking but it really shouldn’t be thrown around even as a joke.
