Yorii is correct - if you’re a pacifist you’re essentially making an oath to do no harm in any way.
If you’re a pacifist with antagonists enabled, it creates a bit of a burden on staff because there’s currently an expectation to either have murder objectives changed (because outside of random luck a murder objective is entirely impossible if you’re acting as a pacifist) or we wipe all of your quirks for the round, not just pacifist but all of your beneficial ones too
what’s gonna happen if 1 breaks the oath?
Or you merge this: Pacifist traitors do not get murder objectives by yorii · Pull Request #4178 · BeeStation/BeeStation-Hornet · GitHub
If they’re an antagonist, they are probably going to get some lenience, and I can pretty much guarantee lenience if they ahelp first but no admin was available to respond.
If they are not an antagonist, they are liable to be banned for powergaming and/or poor RP.
Pacifist antags are honestly very boring for the round as a whole and I think pacifism should prevent being and becoming an antag fullstop. It should at least replace murder with “ensure they don’t escape alive”, so there is still some forced conflict when it rolls what would have been a murder objective.
An antagonist which is incapable of harming others is not going to be very engaging, even if they’re found. I’m open to bring proven wrong though.
But they’ll get even more theft objectives than normal! Pacifist gentleman thief 
I beg to differ. A pacifist antag with an Hijack objective would be very interesting.
Do tell, like I said I’d love to be proven wrong.
All I can come up with is N2O related sabotage and quickly emagging the shuttle console.
golems slave implants ai subverting brainwashing
You are still directly responsible for killing when you force someone else to do it.
so this counts as bypassing pacifism? didn’t know bee is a hrp server
pacisifists aren’t allowed to cause harm, that’s kinda their entire thing
Sage is, in fact, a roleplaying server yes. We expect you to play as your character rather than trying to loophole your way out of playing them.
Aha, got it!
Regenerative bluespace extract everyone on the shuttle ;>
also i just realized, none of the methods i said imply killing
What about subverting AI with quarantine lawset and adding a law about you being able to leave?
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