You literally said that ss13 should be kid friendly, which is an obvious attempt at trolling. Nobody seriously thinks SS13 should be neutered until it is kid friendly. Just like the person who was saying shit like “we should restrict everyone to being black and give all black people in game AA as reparations” this is an obvious troll. I’ve figured out your game, dude.
It’s not off topic because there’s already a lot of bickering going on and you were just adding to it when you said that, and so would anyone who responded to you, so I was reminding people not to feed the troll.
maggot please right here isn’t the place to discuss this
onto the actual topic
I don’t condone the reporter’s actions (yes fuck with the people in charge of keeping you in the round that’ll TOTALLY go well)
but the retribution was disproportionate to the offense
Byond is 13+ a 13 year old is still a minor so yes, I believe it will be best if SS13 communities reflected that fact. With the exception to those that put actual effort in barring them off. Kain’s example of a certain adult website being accessible easily for example isn’t really a good defense either it just shows how wrong this situation is handled across much of the internet. We should at-least bring reasonable barriers in such cases.
However, Bee itself is not such a case because we have always been friendly to minors. Because of such, it is our responsibility from the normal player like you and me to the top-ranked leaders of this community to ensure that these minors are treated respectfully and that will have to include not exposing to behaviors and content not suitable for them.
@Crossedfall Please give your input on this, am I right or not?
Now I am not going to engage you anymore on this topic in this thread as it is way off-topic. But I will end it with this, if you are unable to respectfully engage in a community with minors then maybe you should consider going elsewhere. This isn’t an adult-only community and your personal desires for it to become one aren’t going to happen. There are adult SS13 communities you can join instead. Now please stop this harassment and off topic bombardment against me.
considering his removal from the round lasted about 5 minutes and was inconsequetional relative to the 5 minute sec timer id have given him if they where any sec/or if i was security for getting in the way of helping a dying person AND flashbanging me randomly (his ‘fuck med’ comments at the start of the round as well)
I agree with this lad, me Taiwan. cmo overescalated, i was dísabling him for nudgeting the poor lad until he shot chloral at me then i shot lethals, but he survived and i got asleep then he furnaced me.
He overescalated twice.
Really it sounds like everyone involved here handled this poorly, except maybe yourself as you found yourself finding running into this scenario by completely accident and were clearly about to get murdered for it.
this is in a low pop round with no security, as the CMO i didnt have sec acsess so my intentions where to remove your legs after giving you some choloral to hopefully teach you a lesson. Later on I see you literally just murder a random guy outside medbay then try to flash me, I ion’d you to get you to fuck off then went to the escape shuttle as atmos was fucked that round.
So there’s no sec to stop a rogue CMO from nudgeting a dude for NO REASON even when i asked him he told me “he flashbanged med”
keep in mind tia had stolen AA, full swat gear and multiple guns as QM
no captain, no sec, well i went there and saw a completely bs move done on someone for no reason so i acted because no one else would.
then i obviously try to arrest him with non lethals disabler mode egun, then CMO hits me with a syringe, syringe has chloral hydrate on it, so i inmediately switch back to lethals because how many chloral is on the syringe? i don’t know. he Overescalated against me like he did with the other poor lad and i would probably lose my limbs too against this rogue CMO.
i got him to crit but he had omnizine or some medic healed him or whatever but too late, i was asleep already so he dragged me to the cremator and killed me in the spot, then HE took the AA, the weapons and the vehicle.
he overescalated both with the nudgeted lad and with me.
EDIT: I was shot with what could easily be asumed to be something lethal FIRST before i used lethals on another player HE was the valid one, HE overescalated and i SELF DEFENDED myself against a VERY SUSPECTFUL player becuse he literally removed the limbs of a dude for literally no reason in a retarded overescalation move because somebody used a non lethal grenade that doesn’t has any kind of permanent or long lasting effect, CMO was in the wrong the whole time.
Ya, the syringe gun has always been “that kind” of thing. The doses needed for chloral to kill is very high.
I think we should get some clarification about attacks that you can’t know the fullest extent of (Syringe guns, poisoned foods, etc etc).
CMO definitely over escalated ye, a flashbang can lead to death but there was no follow up from flashbanger.
I’m waiting for the game admins to come and say what are they gonna do.
since as we all can get from this is a massive overescalation TWICE by the CMO being a non antag.
using me having AA (legit LRP classic move) as an excuse and saying that me self defending from him using lethals is good enough.
also this raises one question. who is supposed to stop someone from going rogue on the players when there’s no sec? since he said that i had no authority to disrupt his dispute because i wasn’t sec while there was none and his reasoning to chop off all the limbs from that poor lad was “he used a flashbang” should we let him chop everyone off because they did literally harmless moves in lrp?
I think i acted properly non lethals first on a very suspicious lad that acted like a complete antag, then he overescalated by injecting me with syringe gun with chloral.
Totes and without you knowing the dosages in, it should be treated as a lethal weapon. Besides almost always when someone is attempting to drug you to the point of lost consciousness their plan is almost always to kill you anyways.
I replaced his legs with robot legs for flashbanging me and stopping me healing a dying person, actually read the thread.
also i only killed you after you shot me with a security auto rifle, not with a e-gun
i dont know what you expect me to do against someone who has AA + a entire armoury in there backpack who starts shooting me other than roll over and let me get killed by you, which would have happened if I didnt defend myself.
Consideirng I was acting captain that round and you where the QM, you broke into surgeyr (with a e-gun) as non-security and escelated lethally and faced the consequences. My point about escelation is you can be responded lethally if you do that as non-sec;
IF they go completely hostile (Attacking first and non-stop), they use a weapon or come back to your workplace for a 3rd time (or with a weapon such as a baseball bat), you may validly kill them.
you clearly pulled a gun on me mid convo and started shooting me with a e-gun, then responded with lethals when you got CH’ed
it was literally the only thing i had to defend myself with
maybe we can learn something from one of your bans:
peacefulreligionist
Shot a guy who was vandalizing his workplace with Chloral Hydrate, kicked him past soft crit and stuffed him in a closet. Overescalation, which he acknowledges. Don’t do that again. If anything, just soft crit them, take them to medbay and make sure they get healed. If they come back for revenge, then they are valid. Now you know for next time.
the person i CH’ed didnt die, they where free to leave after getting robo limbs and where never critted, only killed after they came back for revenge, not a overescelation.
For reasons I stated previously you broke into my workplace, interfered in a situation you had no idea about and self-insterted yourself into it and started shooting me with disablers, trying to arrest me the captain as NON SEC with greytided AA, you then pull out a lethal assault rifle and start widlly firing it down a mainhallway after what is obviously not a lethal dose of CH, you would know this with your extensive playing of chemistry how one 15u dose of cholral effects the body. If you didnt try and kill me after the first syringe gun shot i’d have just chucked your ass out without your ID.
acting captain? without asking other heads, without telling the crew, you were acting like a shitter who delimbs someone for shitty reasons.
the guy threw a flashbang and pushed you once or twice and you decided to delimb him
Yeah if i see you delimb anyone because “he threw a flashbang” of god fucking damn course i’ll try to arrest you as non sec this is lrp sec doesn’t exist and it’s shit when it exist.
Just let the antag do antag stuff freely next time hehe.
as i said before you didn’t ask or tell anyone that “you were the captain”, you were a shady guy who was fucking with someone because he did harmless stuff to you.
I did learn from my bans, that’s what they were for maybe you need to learn from a ban too
I am suposed to know the exact content of a syringe you shot at me
should i ask before collapsing?
Also i reafirm on you being desperate, it’s a 10 month old offense the one you pulled out there, why didn’t you pull the date too?
there where no other heads, I was the only head online which makes me the de facto captain.
the guy attacked my workplace two times, with the second time preventing me from healing a bleeding out and dying crew member, I replaced his limbs with robotic limbs so id have a easier time if he came back a third time.
see my first point
im allowed to stand my ground in my workplace if you come in guns blazing, you corner me and gave me literally no recourse BUT to use the only viable type of defence I have against someone trying to shoot me, considering im not a elite gamer like you and dont rush AA/multiple guns every round.
you soft critted me with a AR over something that could have been resolved peacefully; perhaps if you didnt powergame so hard and didnt have full swat gear + sunglasses ect id have actually just been able to flash you?
you delimbed him because “he threw a flashbang on me”, you weren’t peaceful you would have done the same to me in no chance, i wouldn’t have given you the benefit of the doubt. i was resolving this peacefully by using non lethals i would have taken you to the gay sec place leave you there for 10 minutes at least then relimb the poor lad.
I soft critted you with an AR because you used a syringe of dubious contents on me. as i’d rather keep my limbs.
you acted antag that round and i hope admins tell you the same.
considering you where running around the station poking your head into every departments side rooms with AA, swat gear and lots of guns ready to shoot to kill (we had this exchange when you barged into surgery, as the QM for some reason)
