Note appeal against decidedly undecided topic

CKEY: Massked

**Admin’s CKEY:**Aeder1

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Both

Which server did the ban happen on? MRP

Ban Type: Note

Ban Length: N/A

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2020-09-20

Round ID: N/A

Ban Reason: I was banned for using Dead chat in IC despite the fact that I was alive Aeder1 did not believe me and said I died in the ahelp.

Appeal Reason: What actually happened is that I had a NDE (near death experience) which allows you to see dead chat while you are in deep crit. according to bloons3 I should be allowed to use this information as he said in this post Why can we see dead chat while alive if we can't use it?

Additional Information:
Even if I am unable to use this information, I shouldn’t be noted for it either as it is varied from admin to admin on their opinion on it.

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Yeah. If you didn’t actually use information you got while literally dead or try to engineer a situation where you told all the dead people to say the round type or whatever this is extremely cringe. The Dchat from an NDE is totally fine to use in game, even on MRP.

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That is exactly why I made this appeal, it is a completely unfounded noted that i don’t want sticking with me for the next five or six months

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The chat from NDE isn’t even real IIRC it’s a random selection.

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It’s not? I’m pretty sure it is.

I can say with 95 percent certainty that it is real. Regardless, it is irrelevant to the appeal.

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Think thats only for the hallucination. Perhaps you should look into the code to confirm that?

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near death experience gives you the trait sixth sense which allows you to hear dead people.
the scrying orb also gives the trait sixth sense so its not hallucinations

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Aeder is just stupid lmao

To be fair, he was revealing sensitive information from DCHAT about lings IC. Without watching the guy closely at the time, it would’ve been assumed that he was dying, reading some of DCHAT, then being defibbed and coming back to life.

When you are alive, bringing up things you hear in DCHAT while dead is bad.

The ban should be removed since there was a misassumption about the base reason for it.

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Yeah I don’t blame Aeder1, it is easy to see how something like this could happen. I just want my note removed. I have had 2 interactions with them previously but they don’t seem like a badmin.

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Not assuming things about people when you only have like 2 interactions with them, even when the interactions are bad, is decidedly based. +1

There is no clear ruling on this.

As everyone knows using dead chat in IC is deserving of a bwoink at the least. As stated above it was round critical info, outing lings that were yet undiscovered in the shift.

This is the first case that I even know of this so will confer and get back to you.

As for the people saying “remove the ban” there was no ban. It’s a note appeal.

Aeder didn’t fuck up here.

This is probably something that just hasn’t really come up before - and as such has no relevant rulings.

I can entirely see why aeder saw this as breaking the rules.

TL:DR I honest don’t think anyone is really at fault here. Probably should be removed - and have a clear ruling made.

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that is exactly what i am asking for.

  • Ignore deadchat completely
  • You can act on deadchat yourself, but tell noone
  • Tell everyone anything from your NDE

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I throw your fate to the people of this fine station

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Will remove the note as there is no ruling or anything yet.

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Thanks man. 20 characters