Miriamhorn banned by Szczebrzeszyn

CKEY:
MiriamHorn
Admin’s CKEY:
Szczebrzeszyn
Ban Type:
Server Ban
Ban Length:
1 day
Ban Date (YYYY/MM/DD/):
2024-06-09 22:26:21
Round ID:
48930
Ban Reason:
Antagonist Conduct/Griefing. As clock cultist plasmaflooded the station before opening the ark.
Appeal Reason:
I agree that I really messed up by playing with fire which resulted in others death, the punishment is certainly warranted considering the damage, but I believe it’s still at least worth noting that the ban reason feels rather vague, leaving out the fact that this happened 5 minutes before the ark opening, and that it was not exactly done maliciously as the current reason may imply but out of confusion I had with the rules, the ticket itself should also show that.

It has been over two years since I last rolled clockies and so I assumed that one of the messages that pops out and exposes our existence to all of the station

“The Ark’s many cogs suddenly whir to life, steam gushing out of its many crevices; it will open in 5 minutes!”

meant that it was the green light rules wise to start sabotaging the station even further to make station side’s harder on fighting us, I acknowledge that I did it 5 minutes way too early from the actual green light to do so and even so it was kind of stinky.

I don’t expect an unban at all, just because I didn’t pay attention it certainly doesn’t justify what I did but I certainly would at least like some rewording on the reason to better reflect why this happened for the sake of notekeeping, as it feels really vague right now and doesn’t really explain how or why.
Additional Information:

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Don’t you just get instantly teleported when the ark starts opening?
Doesn’t this ban mean you literally just can’t sabotage the station as a clock cultist? And if so, why?
Blood cultists definitely get to start plasmaflooding when they reach halos if they do it correctly (like, against all of brig for example), why is it not possible for clock cult?

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But you instantly get teleported to the ark when the portals announce, so this just means no sabotage allowed at all for clock cult?
Even when the crew is aware, the warning is given (like Miriam saw and the rest of the crew did), clock cult simply cannot do things like that?
Like, in the rules you posted, the message Miriam and others received IS a warning that portals are going to open, too (unless this is a clock cult only message)

I am not judging the validity of whether it should be a thing or not, I genuinely want to know what’s the stance on clock cult sabotage.

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Okay so lets get to the meat:

You flooded the station before portals were announced effectively murderboning without escalation rights to do it.
Removing fuckton of people in truly grieferish manner, without giving them a chance for le grande finalle they’ve been awaiting half of the shift (epic ark fight) doesn’t look good for you either.

Let’s assume I’m missing something and describe how would you reword this ban to better reflect on what you did.

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I assume the Ban description was correct then. I will be closing this within a day if there is no reply from the author.

For the one post that was removed; I do agree, I often saw that happening often with clockies plasmaflooding over and over, prepping it before the ark was even open. It is impossible to even get it setup before the portals are even open as you’ll be sent to your place in around 30 seconds. as far as I know no such actions were even taken at the time which makes me go :thinking:

The current ban message already does make it sound worse just by being vague alone and only opens a lot of interpretations to believe that it could have been done roundstart or maliciously. Intentions also do matter which brings the question of the “grieferish manner”. Clockies and many other antags are basically encouraged to sabotage the station for an advantage and a higher chance in completing their objectives which would make sense for them, even if plasmaflooding was, of course way too far as per antag conduct.

In short: the intention, the OP and ticket should already clarify it. I believe it should be mentioning that it was done 5 minutes before the ark opened under the belief that it was the green light to start murderboning, it is of course worth noting of the severity considering it’s damage though.

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Righto, I’m willing to reword the sentence, so it sounds less “grieferish”.
Antagonist Conduct/Griefing. As clock cultist plasmaflooded the station 5 minutes before opening the ark under the misconception that they can murderbone when they got the notification that the ark will open soon.

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