Incident Description: As a captain on a greenshift, decided to ignore escalation and space law as part of their gimmick/roleplay. He was somewhat upset with me and thretened shooting me if the alert was raised to blue and when I dared them to do it (because he was obviously not allowed to) he shot me until I got into critical condition (skipping straight to escalation 4).
Furthermore this is also explicitly against space law and therefore also a breach or SOP. The captain is supposed to enforce and obey the law even more than the average crewmember, and using lethal force on every situation isn’t exaclty peak captaincy.
Furthermore the captain also shot me to crit again later (because I walked into his room and was trying to announce something I think) and also tried shooting me (but failed) later on because I walked into the bridge.
Someone told me that Authority’s RP consists of Him being “authoritarian”, “evil” or something like that. I’m not sure but if that is the case then it would be against rule 12
The Captain’s goal is to ensure the safety of their crew and the success of the station as a whole, not to abuse your position and power-trip over the station.
I don’t think Marshmellow acted with clear malicious intent, bur I do believe that this situation needs to be checked by an admin.
I wasn’t even gonna do this report but Marshmellow told me I should do it and see what an admin has to say.
To clarify what you think was me ‘trying’ to shoot you was me shooting warning shots to your side. I intended to shoot you you with my less than lethal pistol twice this round, once when you dared me to do it and the second time when you were trespassing in my office after having already RCD deleted all the doors to the bridge once and trespassed once or twice. If I recall correctly the security team was thin or busy when I did this.
Edit: I should also add the tone of this round was insanity. I dont want to write 1000 words, but half of the crew was printing photos of my dictator captain wearing a skirt and calling him cute so you can imagine how he felt dealing with the same IPC deleting all the doors to the bridge to trespass in his office
That was after you had already critted me twice. I did not rcd doors at the time I entered you office (not that I remember).
You asked an officer to arrest me at one point and he looked unwilling to do it, but said that if he dared to disobey you he would be punished in some way so he would not arrest you (for aggraved assault 2 times)
Yes? It’s in the report. I wrote two more instances of over escalarion other than that and also added something related to rule 12 (wich is not even about the captain shooting me)
My memory is hazy because this waited 4 days to be reported, but I also recall now I had two officers, one was printing the posters of me in a skirt and the other was mostly dealing with the naked woman hell bent on beating the shit out of me
The Captain’s goal is to ensure the safety of their crew and the success of the station as a whole, not to abuse your position and power-trip over the station.
You had already critted me twice before I used the RCD. I only trespassed into your office once.
Honestly I don’t even remember why you were so upset to threaten shooting me. Maybe it was because I entered the bridge for a second using my wormhole projector, but that’s just a guess.
The logs for this round will show me very well doing my job as a captain in capacities such as:
overseeing an atmospherics/cargo project to produce ‘infinite credits’ via gas production and eventually awarding a medal to the head of the project
coordinating science and medical to evaluate the doctor who had been patrolling the halls naked trying to assault me to find out why she was like that.
communicating the needs of crew interdepartmentally to make sure they got what they needed as soon as possible from other departments
there is a difference between rules as written and rules as intended, that difference is no longer up to me to decide, which is why I told you to report it.
I don’t know why you waited four days to do this, its kind of annoying considering we don’t remember it the same, but that is all I have to say.
If that is the case then that’s a pretty bad flaw for the server’s rule system. That would mean that everything would be primarily up to admin discretion instead of actual rules.
I’m sorry. I wasn’t gonna do this report, but I decided to get this out of the way before anything else.
That is correct and that is the way the rules are intended to be enforced. They are as written for guidelines, but as intended is more important and up to discretion with admin reports if you disagree.
That’s why my first question in the thread is what it is. If you literally dared the captain to shoot you, you get what’s coming to you when he does. The only reason the thread wasn’t closed as IC already is because of the additional info in the report that will need a look at it.
If you are picking fights and reporting people for fighting you it is pretty close to ban baiting.
That’s pretty silly, but as long as the admins are good then it should be alright I guess.
He had already thretened shooting me before that ocasion, had shot me in other ocasions and had also attacked me and other crewmembers with his sword in other situations without following escalation or IC law. I understand that me confronting him might make that specific situation an IC character issue, but that does not justify the continual overescalation in other situations. If he skipped escalation ONLY when I dared him to then that would be completely IC, but that’s not the case.
I’m not trying to ban bait. I’m reporting things that contradict server rules as written and that also had impacted negatively my experience in the server. If you feel I’m making too many reports for little to no reason then I’d like you to clarify when exactly should I make a report.
Sometimes I try talking to people in the discord server to figure out if I should or should not make a report about things that I’ve experienced, but the responses I get are rather unhelpfull so I tend to write reports whenever I feel something wrong happened and just see in the report if I was right or not.
I’m not necessarily saying you’re in the wrong, just advising you how things may look in certain conditions.
You should always make a report if you feel someone is breaking the rules and I don’t think you’re necessarily making bad reports yet - that’s just how my tone comes off sometimes. I just worry that this is simply going to look like ban baiting when I get to the logs regardless of what your actual intentions may have been.
I’ll hold off on saying more until I see the logs, there’s been too much conjecture on my part already.
The only times you were shot to crit was with a largely non-lethal service pistol. The shots do damage, similar to how beanbag and rubber shots do brute damage but primarily deal stamina damage and this is regarded as a non-lethal weapon.
This is something of a grey area in escalation policy, but given this is the de-facto weapon heads of staff including the captain are expected to use as a non-lethal weapon, I would say the service pistol counts as the first step of escalation much like a disabler does. You were also poked with the captain saber a total of three times - once in the initial confrontation where you were daring them to shoot you, and once later on in an isolated incident.
I don’t believe rules were broken in this round by the captain, and it reads more or less as expected with a dose of “fuck around and find out”. There was no apparent sign of ban baiting either - I think this was mostly a misunderstanding that the service pistol is considered to be a “less than lethal” weapon similar to beanbag and rubber bullets.