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CKEY: cobradormascarado

Your Discord: cafedamanha44777

Offender’s CKEY: no clue

Offender’s In-Game Name: miriam hornet, kelly, security (kind of?) it’s all over the place

Date (YYYY-MM-DD): 12/december/2024

Round Number: 50989

Rules Broken:1 7 8 (possibly 9?)

Incident Description: I joined the round a clone of Miriam, I found myself in a sort of shop i RPed being scared and ran. After this i was captured, mocked and tortured for the rest of the round, not being allowed to walk, just being cuffed at all times while no one listened to me. I don’t know the circunstances of this but being so violently abused ICly made me honestly uncomfortable and no one even listening to me as if i was worthless made it even worse. You have to ask Miriam and Kelly for more info about this tho, when i asked why i was created they simply said “i was created to exist as a clone” or something and that i had no rights.

I didn’t know i could ghost or dnr or whatever because I didn’t think it was something I was allowed to do just because i was uncofortable

Also Kelly seems reget this, she though i’d reach out in LOOC if i was uncomfortable

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I went ahead and typed up my side as clinically as possible (Sorry to the admin for the length)

As a non-antag station engineer, late in the round, kidnapped sentient clone of Miriam after Mia called out for station crew to capture clone.

Beginning (Dorms)
Clone was spotted in Dorms and Kelly Cornered them in an escape shuttle and called for Miriam (original) to come grab their clone. The clone had attempted escape through front window, scuffle occurred and Kelly subdued clone.

Medbay
Clone was held and later brought to medbay for collection by Miriam (original). Clone lamented existence and begged to die, Kelly stated the clone,“Did not have rights.”, and ignored them IC. Miriam (original) collected clone and another attempt to escape ensued.

Escape attempt to Cargo
After escaping, Kelly and clone run toward cargo, shoving one another, clone punching Kelly. Kelly began punching back in return, causing clone to escalate to throwing metal rods at Kelly. Kelly resorted to industrial welder and subdued Clone.

Tools Storage to Medbay
Clone brought back to Miriam and epinephrined clone before clone died. Clone brought to stasis bed from tools storage to be defibrillated, and was defibrillated successfully. Kelly and Miriam spoke to the clone and when clone expressed continued IC dismay, Kelly resorted to buckling the clone to the stasis bed and singing a lullaby in full view of crew. Kelly then unbuckled clone and tried passing off to Miriam (original), of whom did not want the clone and gave it to Kelly.

Medbay to EORG
Carx Poppers, the only crew member who attempted to free the clone, attempted to free clone and Kelly escaped with clone to drag them to departures. Clone frequently begging for an explanation for their existence, Kelly stating it was to,“Be a carbon copy of Miriam.”

Resolution
Clone was brought to shuttle and was released at EORG.

Additional Information

As Kelly Everettson, prior-to the clone fiasco, I was attempting to do my job normally, setting up SM, turbine, TEG, and modifying parts of Atmos after given permission by command before Carx arrived and during his work.

I was attempting to engage in Miriam, Mia, and Katrina’s “Awesome Store” gimmick, and was unaware of the OOC discomfort felt by the clone of Miriam.

In hindsight I should have LOOC inquired whether or not they were discomforted by the actions taken IC, I made the assumption that if they were uncomfortable they would have advised me LOOC.

I understand this can be considered a violation of the Excellency rule and will accept any notes or bans as a result of this behavior (preferably not permanent…)

Minor format adjustments to hopefully make things clearer, content of body unchanged (2024-12-16 @ 10:25)

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My CKey is Ragantis, for admins.

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Hello, I was Katrina

I do not want to get into the security portion as one of their main victims (mainly by Sleep and Walther), because quite frankly I’m mentally tired from the round and just did not have a good time. I am just going to play off-station / minimal interaction roles for the next week at this point - take it how you will.

For the awesome shop, I can give context.

Mia opened a shop in an empty commissary, I had already acquired various neat things for her to sell (like a fake lava wand) and then stumbled on the motherload - an experimental cloner.

I got it set up and cloned myself (whom the ghost was very fun). Mia then decided we should sell clones too. I think we sold maybe two Mias (I think one was sentient and died) and the aforementioned Miriam. Someone called over the radio that the Miriam clone was evil, but I cannot recall who. I think this is what made the crew vaguely decide not to touch the situation. That was the gist of my interaction with the clone besides walking past them at random points - mostly as either Miriam Original or Kelly’s prisoner. Security did have 5 non-sentient Miriam clones to my understanding

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Kelly was told by the clone that they were too loud, so Kelly yelled on common that the clone was evil because she felt personally slighted. I can understand going forward if this specific word should not be used to describe things and people she does not like going forward if that will help things.

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There was lots of players in security, myself included and I have no relation to anything that has happened to you, can you use the names of people you’re reporting?

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Security (all of them) did not prevent the production or kidnapping of the clones, whether or not that is bad is not up to me to decide but that’s one of the connections that security (everyone in the departmenr that’s supoosed to enforce law) had with the cloning incident

Furthermore it seems security had ordered 5 clones or something, that’s the main reason i added security here

I don’t know exactly what happened, and I have no way of knowing who in security contributed to the situation, if necessary this info can be acquired from logs and other players

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Security, specifically Sleep, requested 5 non-sentient Miriam clones from a normal cloner. I’m really unsure as to why they asked, but I made a deal and said I’d get them the clones if they got the cloner upgraded fully. They did, Miriam consented to the 5 clones, and I delivered them. It was entirely separate from the sentient clone issue to my knowledge.

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That round was miserable for many involved and I definitely get your frustration. My intention was not to keep you in cuffs all around. If what I said was considered mocking I apologize, as that was meant to be entirely IC and also me being really locked out as I got overwhelmed later into the round. Torture in the other hand I really try to avoid that sort of stuff as it gets icky real fast.

Mia was doing her awesome shop gimmick which eventually involved her making clones of themselves and selling them for money, I’m not sure how those went myself aside from what Kat said in here but I was eventually dragged in to get scanned.

When you were first cloned you immediately ran off from the shop as soon as you went conscious, which prompted me to report that you ran away before a bounty(?) of 1000 credits being open by Mia for you to be brought back in, I am not sure if this actually motivated anyone to attempt to capture you as I had mostly forgot about you until Kelly told me to get to dorms before seeing you two run away and eventually be brought back in cablecuffs. My intention was to turn you back in to Mia so she could continue with her gimmick before she went soulless after security blew her store up, which made me drag you around and see if I could salvage something out of it before I ended just cutting your cuffs off in the cloner before seeing you cuffed again(?) on the tool storage by Kelly before you ended up dying and being defibbed in medbay.

As soon as her shop blew up I started to get really overwhelmed as things happened, like Anxiety wanting me to be scanned for whatever sec wanted, Maniacal’s remote morse code circuit that I had bought often emitting a sound I’d have to pay attention for in order to decode it, as well as just many things going on at once after the entire incident at the awesome shop which made me struggle at focusing on the chat or read the chat scrolling down really fast or even reply to you which led me to hand you to Kelly hoping that she could try to cook up any meaningful interaction.

I apologize if you were uncomfortable with it OOCly. The round wasn’t exactly fun for many, and like Kelly, I was under a similar assumption that if you were uncomfortable and not having fun you’d reach out to us through LOOC as it’s really hard to tell through IC. I’d definitely have let you go in response.

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I got mentioned a couple times here, so I figure I ought to probably add what I know to it all. Ill start of with the relatively unimportant part which is the five clones, then move to the main issue for what I know.

In the case of the five clones, this was partially resultant of my own tomfoolery and what happened with the store, such will be detailed later best to my recollection. The gist of this part was that after Walther (Player) and I were in the store a second time (I think it was then?), a clone of Miriam was secured and brought to the brig. I threw that clone into the wardens office and a joke was made of the warden preferring cat girls over having Walter (the warden’s dog) as a pet since Walter was out and about in brig instead of the office. This got me to think of playing up the joke some more, so I requested five more clones that I was intending to shove into the wardens office. The process of getting them was about as bleue described. The clones got delivered right around when the shuttle arrived, so we took them all to the shuttle, and I sat them down in the sec room of the shuttle.

As to the whole incident of the store:

My first interaction with such was me walking by the store, and checking it out. I noticed the store had some items which might be contraband such as sec gear and a syringe gun amongst other things. I reported this to the radio and ended up being called to brig for a security meeting. It seemed based on this that the HOS was already aware of the store selling contraband, and as such a raid on the store was organized in the meeting.

This led to the actual first raid of the store. Literally the entire security team worked together on this raid. Everyone locked down exits to the store, and everyone charged into the store. What happened after was a relative clusterfuck as if I recall correctly we got everyone in the store cuffed, then found a hidden wall where the barber was doing brain surgery? I don’t believe we ended up finding any proper contraband in the store, or at the least I didn’t. I had thought the syringe gun was contraband until later the HOS clarified that they don’t consider it such, so that yielded nothing.

Some time between this and Walther’s (player) and my second ‘raid’ on the store I heard reports of Miriam running around naked on the station. I don’t fully remember this part, but I think I cracked a joke about it and asked if we arrest people for nudity on the station.
–After reading the other comments, I now realize this was the sentient clone–
I don’t believe I ever got a proper response for such, which would track with the other comments of sec not doing anything about the clone.

Now, the second raid on the store was rather impromptu on part of me trying to work with Walther. To preface this, I was aware of Walther being brain damaged and playing as such. This made it rather interesting and difficult as I tried to see between him playing a brain damaged individual, and a security officer. It would seem this came to a head when Walther came to me claiming there was a gun and contraband in the awesome store.

Regrettably, as it is surely surprising, believing the brain damaged individual was not the best course of action. This led to Walther and I moving to the store. There Walther started pointing to the store and talking about something along the lines of seeing a gun or contraband. I grabbed Walther and threw him into the store to search for said contraband. It was here that a fight broke out between Walther and the people in the store. To which end I tossed a flashbang into the store and rushed to the opposite end. Here I started breaking the door down to get to Walther. During which another security member helped me break the door down and get inside the store.

I don’t fully remember what exactly happened after I got into the store, but there was a mix of finding no contraband, Walther continuing to stun baton people, and me eventually throwing him out of the store because of such. I vaguely remember someone grabbing a naked Miriam clone during this time, and pulling it out of the store. After throwing Walther out and leaving myself, I saw the clone, grabbed it, and brought it to brig. This was the clone that I shoved into the wardens office.

That roughly wraps up the stuff I remember happening between the store, sec, clones, and I. There is more than likely significant portions missing.

My commentary on the matter:

From what I’ve read I messed up pretty bad with the second raid on the store, which seemingly left a few players feeling rather wronged. With that I gather I ought to tone back the raid happy ‘lets go stun baton an assistant’ attitude. Further, given the context from the other comments, the clone army in warden office joke was obviously done in what is easily gathered as bad taste. Whatever may come of this punishment-wise is fine by me.

For the future, please do not hesitate to yell at me or call me out OOC if I screw something up or make someone uncomfortable.

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