Johnny Witherspoon (Witherael) report

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CKEY: Selfiren

Your Discord: sapfearon

Offender’s CKEY: Witherael

Offender’s In-Game Name: Johnny Witherspoon

Date (YYYY-MM-DD): 2024.09.13.

Round Number: 49963

Rules Broken:
13 Antagonist Conduct
1 You Must Roleplay

Incident Description: Out of 4 people alive, johnny killed 3. His objective was nuclear disk and murdering engineer. Proceeds to more-less permanently remove his target, kill innocent bystander who had disk AND HE DIDNT KNEW THEY HAD IT (raspbery instantly gave them disk away after revival anyway), killed CMO(me) for…reasons? When he killed cmo, he already had AA and killed 2 people. So killing me was just “lol command valid in rules so i’m gonna kill them” kind of move in my opinion. No chance for rp either, since he killed me mid-talking. Proceeds to bully new player for sometime and bought disko inferno(?!). Critted one freshly arrived person on shuttle and almost critted another one. The only reason he didn’t killed them both is that they had welding tool and threathened to use it inside plasma shuttle as self-defence.

Additional Information: Killing people on low pop already bad, killing people who are not your objective is worse. Attacking people on shuttle for no reason is bad. Felt like he just chased his greentext with zero regards about anyone else.

How many reports this guy has already?..

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one was my target, the other was an accident that I did my best to rectify while trying to figure out how the wicker doll worked, and the cmo succumbed while I was bag checking for the nad

bot knows I wasn’t OOC bullying him, I was OOC teaching him a bit of medical while continuing to be the le epic bad guy in character by having him wear the cmos clothes and try to revive the old CMO before the shuttle arrived

the person I critted had an open welder and was about to ignite a plasma statue, and I was just throwing tracers at the other guy for shits and gigs so he’d dance around on the disco inferno
I’m starting to feel like some of these reports of a bit frivolous

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This statement calls the integrity of this report into question.

The number of reports is irrelevant if they aren’t substantiated. One of the now closed reports involved a lynch mob murdering them, led by the reporting player. The other report is also relatively minor.

Gatekeeping is bad yo.

This is supposed to be a welcoming community.

To get to the actual report though:

What steps did he take to permanently remove his target? Did they hide the body or destroy the brain?

Do you mean this as in type-baiting (asked you a question and then attacked) or just attacking you while you were talking to someone else? Can you elaborate on this a bit more?

If you were the CMO, is this statement from Wither true?

Because if you succumbed while claiming you were killed, it’s incredibly bad faith. This can even be treated as ban-baiting.

I want to dig into the root of this statement: How can an antagonist do their antagonizing in a way that satisfies you on low pop?

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Yet when i created report i instantly saw 3(?) other reports about him. Hard not to notice you know?

Body was outside of station z-level (lavaland) inside lava - which more less impossible to find even on high with people dedicated to search for him.

He asked me question, received answer. Before i could expand on that answer - i was already in crit while typing.

Him teaching? He tried…something? That’s honestly up to logs, i can’t give honest opinion on that since you know, if i was teaching that player they woud’ve successed in reviving.
That said, if he wanted to revive me - he had all tools in his hands and instead he simply tortured new player who was clearly panicked and had no idea what to do - could’ve used LOOC to at least provide him wiki link. Medbay had syntflesh, advanced tools, all advanced meds, custom beds/consoles, defib etc.

Yeah, and they all had welders because you were throwing tracers and they were all dangerously close to crit. Psych went into deep crit before shuttle arrived and Carx was very close. Moth was cuffed and dying on chair. Which means that even before shuttle arrived to centcom you managed to kill, crit or put near crit all living crew.

I always succumb when i’m in deep crit - unless i think there is chance for save (friendlies nearby). Considering i knew he already killed everyone…That said, succumbing is not ban baiting.

I mean, Squik does pretty good job at keeping his/her antags dangerous but fun for crew. Fun gimmick, good RP, not instantly resorting to murder - anything that makes CREW having fun is good in my opinion. Antags are here to make rounds fun for everyone, not for single person who plays them right?
Just to be 100% clear - i knew he killed everyone, i had gun and i would’ve won duel against him due to having vast amount of meds and good weapon. I didn’t resorted to instantly shooting him on sight and instead tried to talk. Would it be fun for him if i opened door to surgery, saw him and instantly lethaled him? It’s justified and within rules, but not going to bring any joy for people you know?

I do want to point out that he had 2 AA cards at this point and killed person who had his nuclear disk(by accident?). He is apparently good enough player to use crusher against megafauna and win and yet somehow, he doesn’t know about disk pinpointer? Instead he goes out of his way to medbay and kills the only remaining crewmember? I find it hard to belive honestly.

I do have problem with lowpop antags generation in general, you can have 2 out 3 people get antags which is…just wrong. But that’s dynameme problem…

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I’m sorry if this isn’t the right spot to reply or if i should even here as this is my first time in this.

I don’t know how much it matters from my POV but as far as i see it; my death wasn’t Johnnys fault, it was a gamma accident by me being a goof. so my death isn’t on them. As for the medbay, at first I should’ve made the effort to say ooc i had no idea what i was doing, as Witherspoon was just playing the part of antang and couldnt have reasonably known how much of medical i knew. But by the time they returned and realized the shuttle had arrived. Not only that but Raspberry as a whole is a crybaby and panicky character, especially in that kind of situation so I don’t want that to be held against the antag for being mean as that just seems like a character trait for the role.

As for everything else I don’t know If i know enough to talk about so I’ll leave it at that. But If there’s anything i can add please let me know as i did comment in the discord my thoughts too and am sure i could find screenshots atleast.

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My uh post got messed up due to mobile.

I meant the succumbing part and you already answered it further down.

Being an extremely robust miner means having good rhythm and understanding of bosses. It doesn’t translate 1:1 to being good and super knowledgeable at everything else.

I do agree that I think they would know about a pinpointer, but I just don’t like using this train of logic that really good at one thing MUST mean really good at all things. This is a gatekeeping mentality again.

Someone who has only ever been focused on mining and trying to involve themselves elsewhere has to start somewhere and being met with automatic hostility for trying to expand their play experience is terrible to see.

I don’t have anything to ask/add on the other points, so thanks for expanding, I don’t have the ability to verify claims on either side but this most of the information that’s necessary for verification by a fullmin.

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I’m assuming this is Raspberry, can you explain how you accidentally killed them?

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Firstly, a non murderbone traitor buys disco inferno, the shuttle that will infamously kill everyone that boards it if a fire starts, and is full of welding fuel/welders if I recall correctly.

Don’t do this if you don’t have objectives for it.
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As for the killing, the first two kills were Raspberry and the CMO. The interaction goes something like this:

Johnny: “Where is the disk”
CMO: “Oh, I dont know, even if I-”
Johnny starts spamming the heiro staff and kills the CMO, and raspberry in the crossfire.

That was typebaiting, you asked him a question and attacked him as he was typing his response.

After this, there is some evil speech with Raspberry, all is fine, and then the shuttle arrives.

Johnny begins shooting at random people with a vortex gun on the insanely dangerous shuttle to make them dance.

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This shooting takes Oliver and Raspberry into critical, and a third guy, Carx, is at 10 health. No good reason for any of this for an antagonist that isn’t trying to kill everyone if you ask me.

@Witherael Taking into account you’ve already shown this behaviour and copped bans for it on other servers, I’m willing to believe you knew this was overboard. In future, if you don’t have objectives like Die a glorious death or Hijack the shuttle, don’t kill most of the players in round.

By the end of the round, you were the only guy standing that wasn’t in critical, dead, or at 10hp.

@Alex_Maksimov Cheers for the report, and just so you’re aware, don’t threaten people with admin action, including reports, in OOC or deadchat. If you’re going to report them, just report them, the threats are just bad taste.

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