no
its a downside to using those perks, dont pick them if you dont want to have the downsides
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If security steals your stuff ahelp, it’s already against the rules.
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As above, if sec takes your heirloom 4noraison ahelp it. This should be covered under “Be excellent to each other”
Unless your literally griefing a known, and confirmed traitor, it’s something I would bwoink for.
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They can take it when they’re stripping you to put you in the cell for 5 minutes, then you can go insane. It’s not against the rules for sec to take your stuff if you’re a prisoner.
This can happen to non-antags because shitsec will always shitsec.
A lot of things should be covered under that by rule of common sense, but don’t forget we are but mere neanderthals
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I believe they wherent referring to sec stealing your heirloom but putting it into the brig cell locker while your timer ticks away
regardless you should be paying extra attention to not getting arrested if you’re running that perk setup; no decent officer is going to allow a prisoner to keep there backpack on them. Just as an example, assistants literally get a toolbox heirloom that fits into a backpack, why would we make it against the rules to remove it from you? You can literally break out in seconds with it…
this change would be way too heavy handed, buff heirloom by removing one of its only downsides and just be a bad idea overall imo
technically it is, since heirlooms are esentially unique items and only a few exist they follow this ruling
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The reasoning is: incarceration. Pretty valid to me. Just don’t run the perks if you cant take the heat
I agree sec just stealing them for shits and giggles should be against the rules, but if you use them in a crime its fair game for evidence, its also fair to remove them for the duration of your cell timer.
Being a dick is never valid. Being a dick is always being a dick.
Also there’s no reason to confiscate a slime plushie or a fountain pen or whatever other random thing you get.
New players shouldn’t necessarily be punished for not knowing but refusing to return it is cringe and shitsec behavior. Even in perma you can have a fucking pen.
Boo hoo please you can go to the bar, take a bite of something and drink a drink then mood is back, if you dont like the downside of a negative perk dont take it
Either get robust and evade sec or stop being a shitter in the first place to not get arrested
sure, but those arent the only heirlooms, it makes perfect sense to confiscate other shit like the toolbox
Sec shouldn’t go out of their way to fuck you but I mean… that fits the theme of your traits that this would happen.
Maybe you could add it to your records in the character creator to help your case with that at least.
This is Beestation Sage NRP, people don’t check records.
also… what the fuck are you talking about?
oops, forgot setting your own records didn’t exist on this codebase lmao
goes to show how much I used it
and you’re tryna get admin… for shame, know your codebase
hrp shill
anyways
removing the heirloom is resonable, if it would be considered against the rules then DARING to harm intent someone or call them a r*de word would be as well, for the complete hugbox experience
MAN UP
AND DEAL WITH IT
Assistants spawn with heirloom toolboxes, which are valid escape tools.
Taking it away for like 5 minutes is fine.
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Okay but I don’t play assistant and also don’t care about people who do.
Then your suggestion is invalid. You’re suggesting a rulechange that you want only because it benefits you, and you’re saying that any other situation does not matter because you do not care about them nor the impact they have on this very idea.
Therefore your suggestion is no longer a suggestion but a request to be hugboxed.
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