When you are stripped by sec they should ask if you have an heirloom you need to keep with you. Obviously they should deny you if you lie and say “shotgun is my heirloom,” but for people with hypersensitive + heirloom + unstable (I run these quirks) 5 minutes without it can make you permanently insane.
As above, if sec takes your heirloom 4noraison ahelp it. This should be covered under “Be excellent to each other”
Unless your literally griefing a known, and confirmed traitor, it’s something I would bwoink for.
They can take it when they’re stripping you to put you in the cell for 5 minutes, then you can go insane. It’s not against the rules for sec to take your stuff if you’re a prisoner.
This can happen to non-antags because shitsec will always shitsec.
A lot of things should be covered under that by rule of common sense, but don’t forget we are but mere neanderthals
I believe they wherent referring to sec stealing your heirloom but putting it into the brig cell locker while your timer ticks away
regardless you should be paying extra attention to not getting arrested if you’re running that perk setup; no decent officer is going to allow a prisoner to keep there backpack on them. Just as an example, assistants literally get a toolbox heirloom that fits into a backpack, why would we make it against the rules to remove it from you? You can literally break out in seconds with it…
this change would be way too heavy handed, buff heirloom by removing one of its only downsides and just be a bad idea overall imo
I agree sec just stealing them for shits and giggles should be against the rules, but if you use them in a crime its fair game for evidence, its also fair to remove them for the duration of your cell timer.
New players shouldn’t necessarily be punished for not knowing but refusing to return it is cringe and shitsec behavior. Even in perma you can have a fucking pen.
Boo hoo please you can go to the bar, take a bite of something and drink a drink then mood is back, if you dont like the downside of a negative perk dont take it
Either get robust and evade sec or stop being a shitter in the first place to not get arrested
anyways
removing the heirloom is resonable, if it would be considered against the rules then DARING to harm intent someone or call them a r*de word would be as well, for the complete hugbox experience