Holeyshoez banned by archanial

CKEY: holeyshoez

Admin’s CKEY: archanial

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Both

Which server did the ban happen on? Sage

Ban Type: Server

Ban Length: Permanent

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2020-12-01 18:44

Round ID: 24594

Ban Reason: Evasion

Appeal Reason: Looking to get the Perma lifted. Was initially banned from Botany for throwing a harmful plant on LRP server, and thought I had served my time for that. Didn’t think it was a perma ban. When I logged in today, I thought that since my new VPN active that was why I wasn’t able to log into Byond at all. So created a new account and it worked.

Additional Information: new CKey was Bobjimbo5000

I will assign admin who banned you permanently on your first alt to the appeal.

It’s also worth noting you tried lying in ahelp in game.

I just realized Cae is on leave sorry for ping. I will ask for his opinion and resolve it myself.

Thank you for reassigning - let me know if I can help. Realize I messed that up.

I actually kept screengrabs of that ahelp because it was sorta funny. I’ll post them down below.

I also just want to get this straight: You got a permanent ban on botany, and then thought that a VPN was preventing you from logging you back into the holeyshoes account, so you made another account? Am I getting that right?

Correct - I got the Botany job ban. I thought that Byond was blocking my login due to the new VPN and created another one today and it worked. Tried DCing VPN prior to that and wasn’t able to log in. still not sure what is going on with the holeyshoez account.

Perhaps is the fact that the botany ban exists on account holeyshoes, while holeyshoez has a ban for evasion, which happens to also be the same reason as the ban on bobjimbo5000?

Yupp that’s what it seems. I really don’t know what the deal is with those two accounts, I don’t have access to the first and don’t have any login credentials or email to see what the deal is. Sorry for that.

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So, which ckeys do you have access to?

Holeyshoez and Bobjimbo5000.

I’m also going to ask for @Caecilius’s opinion as he originally issued the botany ban to Holeyshoes, just so I can get a better sense of what I want to do to fully close this out.

What about Holeyshoes?
I am willing to lift permanent server ban but you will need to appeal perma botanist ban (probably at later date, after playing some time with good record) and choose only 1 account.

Sorry for the delay. I don’t have access to Holeyshoes.

It’s hard for me to believe that holeyshoes is not your original account, based on your name on the forums.

Your story doesn’t add up with records at all.
I’m going out on a limb when I say that sharing those records is only going to lead to better ban evasion on your part.

You have three accounts, all three have matching credentials that a VPN doesn’t explain it at all. You tried to evade with a VPN + new account, you lied about it and you’re still lying about it.

Keep the ban.

As well, when checking for alts by IP only your account shows up, which isn’t indicative of a VPN. So I think I’m going to agree with Ruko. Keep it.

I’m gonna deny it for now.
If you want to reappeal, make your mind which accounts are yours.
Having a vouch from other server will help as well.