Admin’s CKEY: Ivniinvi
Ban Type: Server ban.
Ban Length: 1 week.
Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2021-09-13.
Round ID: 32659
Ban reason: “General LRP behavior, mass messaging weird questions to the entire crew.”
Appeal reason: Allow me to give you some context as the ban reason is very vague. Honestly my only crime was making crude jokes over PDA messages of which I only made three. After a good while of not messaging the admin Ivniinvi contacted me to talk. Ivniinvi claimed that it was against the rules to make people uncomfortable and since my jokes were supposedly making some people uncomfortable, I was breaking the rules. I would claim that I obviously did not disturb people as all of them forgot about the messages very quickly after receiving them and Ivniinvi did NOT receive an ahelps so, evidently people were not bothered enough about it to take it up with admins. The only person who was truly annoyed by my messages was Ivniinvi herself as she took her own initiative to punish me speaking on behalf of all the extremely uncomfortable people.
But how do you determine what makes people uncomfortable? Does this only apply when the content is erotic? Does it count if the person was not trying to make people uncomfortable? Is it against the rules to be provocative in any capacity? The rule of “you cannot make anybody uncomfortable” is terribly vague and open to interpretation. When should an admin punish for such actions and when shouldn’t they? There is no strict definition that can be easily followed by everybody, as everybody can make others feel uncomfortable without the intention to and one person’s uncomfortable situation is another person’s paradise. Uncomfortable is a very flexible point of view which makes it easy for somebody to make a mistake and have trouble understanding were they went wrong.
I have asked a lot of questions, right? Well, I posed some of these questions to Ivniinvi in an effort of understanding what I did wrong, how I broke the rules and really how the rules work. Invniinvi either could not communicate the answer properly or flat out refused to answer directly as way she was vague and indirect with all her responses (not specifying what was wrong with my messages after being asked etc). Not only did she refuse to properly explain why I was getting banned or how I was breaking the rules, she got increasingly angry throughout our conversation (at one point BLINDING my character) for the crime of wanting to understand the rules better.
This all built up until I mentioned that if nobody ahelped then obviously people were not really that uncomfortable as if they were they would take it up with admins; she was unable to argue her points effectively and out of frustration she landed me a harsh 7 day ban. During my conversation with Inviinvi I was polite, courteous and did my best to treat her with respect. I did not feel the same way about this admins conduct towards me, and as I calmly made my points with no disrespect towards Inviinvi, she gave me the harsh ban out of sheer frustration from a failure to communicate.
I do not doubt that there is a chance that what I did was wrong but given this context and the fact that I have done this many times before without warning from admins makes it reasonable for me to claim ignorance. 7 days is very harsh and I have seen people (including myself) do much worse things than banter in the PDA messages and get much lighter sentences. I have been playing on beestation for the longest time, love it and try my best to get along with my fellow players; if I did break any rules I don’t think it was 7 day ban bad and I also don’t think that having a discussion with an admin about the rules should be a pathway to getting in further trouble, especially if you are being polite and treating said admin with respect.
Thank you for reading this, and if I offended anybody I apologize.