Evafan player report. Hypocrite Antag

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CKEY: philaretos

Your Discord: vmycode

Offender’s CKEY: evefan

Offender’s In-Game Name: Malcolm Priebe

Date (YYYY-MM-DD): 2024-11-07 (CET)

Round Number: 50577

Rules Broken: You Must Roleplay, No Powergaming, Do Not Grief, Antagonist Conduct

Incident Description: Antagonist QM with one assasination objective, and one Steal a functional AI objective, and Escape alive objective, preceeds to kill roughly 8 people many of whom are objective unrelated civilians. Kills the Warden in the first few minutes of the round and ransacks brig. Multiple dead crew were found decapitated and had their IDs strewn accross the station. Whilst i wasnt there to witness it i also think they might have welder bombed the medbay but that could have been unrelated. They also stayed entirely silent for the entire duration of the engagement as far as i can tell, and went DNR as soon as they died.

Additional Information:

They were Antagonist the round prior and got themselves the HOP promotion, ended up killing the clown and tried to kill me (as security) when i was vulnerable. Whilst that is in and off itself relatively acceptable antag behaviour, I am noting it because later in OOC they were salting extremely about security not Roleplaying, despite the sittuation they referenced which involved me not leaving any room to do so. They would further go on to state: “i guess ill go around killing sec next time im antag”, “just wordlessly round removing them ok” (direct quotes)

Further additional information: I dont believe they are a grifman as you might call it since they are very passionate and active on the forums about the server and RPing in it. I however dont believe that the way they act is compliant with the rules, or beneficial to the cause they continously advocate for. And even though my personnal opinion shouldnt matter on this, i would just want them to chill out a bit and maybe be less cynical.
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P.S. This is my first report so lmk if i am missing something.

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@Evafan try again without being unnecessarily inflammatory.

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All I did was write ‘XD’ and call it a salt report. Dude, chill out. It’s not unnecessarily inflammatory lmao.

Anyway.

Roundstart - I am messing with clown. I dare the Warden to arrest me - he tries to arrest me so I kill them, take their ID, armor, sechuds, gun, belt, then turn on his sensors to max and move to brig where I try to flush all the crap they have in the lockers down the disposal chute - can’t, mediborg returns with it in the crate.

Then I mess around maintenance, try to mug some people. I don’t remember, exactly what I was doing. I eventually stumble upon chaplain - I mug them, they comply and drop all their things. I let them go.

Then I keep walking around maintenance, go to medical, where I find a dead (round-spawned soulless body) of an assistant and start cutting it with an energy sword. Some medical doctor comes by and tries to take it (again, wordlessly. Just walking up to a guy with an energy sword.) I politely tell them to get the fuck out, they ignore me, so I start shooting my ebow at them. We eventually part ways after security comes to medical and I get shot with a morphine syringe by the CMO.

I run away and collapse somewhere near chapel maint, where the same chaplain (stuck in maintenance for some reason, even though I let them out) - drags my unconscious body and starts stripping (looting) me. I wake up in time and proceed to kill them for that, cutting off his limbs (except for head) and turning on his sensors on maximum. Also, he had a laser gun on his belt now, since he took it off of me. If I didn’t act, he probably would’ve killed me if I tried to talk with him.

I keep walking around maintenance. I find the same warden, spamming flashbangs (XD) on me and then I kill them after talking a lot of damage. I fuck them up and ditch their brain in the crate next to their body, because he was pissing me off and I already let them go the first time. I take his mobility scooter. I might have turned off his sensors, i don’t remember at this point.

Somewhere in that time I have some more beef with clown. He throws a pie at me, trying to disarm me, after I try to mug them. Okay - sure, buddy. I kill him and leave him in the hallway (in public), taking the pie for myself. I continue to fight sec along the way, and borg conga that I assume is trying to stop me. I blow up a welding tank that’s right next to them and finish off the peacekeeper borg. I also kill the mediborg somewhere along this time, because he kept pestering me.

Somewhere along that time I am hiding in maints, recharging my guns, when a Janitor finds me. I crit him and leave him there because I got scared. He literally jumped me outta nowhere and I was already vulnerable (1-2 hits away from critical condition). Unlucky timing, I suppose. I didn’t attempt to round remove them.

Then I kill the clown again (who now has security gear, a stun baton, and a mobility scooter, trying to catch me) - I just leave him dead where I killed him, not taking anything off of him.

I fight more sec, then I bleed out from a stray WT bullet and DNR, then my internet crashes, I log on again, I see you malding about me on Dchat (Eats-The-Bungo?) so I joke around and we leave. Not once have I ‘insulted’ you, btw.

And that’s about it.

That’s how you know this is a bad faith player report, here because you have some personal greviance against me due to my ban list (like, ok?). I agree it’s not the prettiest sight but I don’t understand why you are so obsessed about it.

The moral of this is simple: If you don’t want to get killed, don’t run into the antag like a headless chicken, and then piss and cry when they kill you. The only person who went along with my request - the chaplain - I let go. As for whether I roleplayed - yes, I did. I did roleplay as an antagonist, the same way security roleplays as security, paramedic as paramedic, clown as clown, medical doctor as medical doctor, ect.

Antags can kill those who intervene or bother them. The only person I round-removed was the Warden, after he tried to go after me, twice, and failed. (I mean, he wasn’t trying to talk to me or anything, so… what gives? Why should I bend over and let myself be arrested when I try to strike convo first in every shift I’m an antag? If they can wordlessly baton me, ignoring everything I do, write, and act out - I should be able to wordlessly hurt them in return (and I even gave him a free pass the first time, since he died so early into the shift.)

Antags my preemptively remove security officers, according to the rules.

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Ill add in my information to this since I was the warden for the round, and I figure it might help figure some things out.

From round start:

If I recall correctly I was a late join by a matter of seconds, I went to sec and started getting my bearings. I find myself the only sec member, and without command. Borg gives me NAD, someone jokes about me being command, I say absolutely not.

Being the only sec I figure I ought to go out and check on stuff only to immediately hear clown claiming to have been assaulted. I find them in main hall just above medical, as what’s going on. Clown claims he was assaulted, I am about to ask if he wants to press charges when he says so himself.

Malcolm proceeds to dare me to arrest him and runs off. If he complained about sec not RPing, maybe he should give a chance to actually do so? I understand I’m not exactly the best at it and certainly fall short of talking before acting, but there was not even a chance with this one. Perhaps attempt more than one line of dialogue, or rather monologue?

Continuing, he runs off, I pursue with disabler in hand. Follow him into maints where he pulls the E bow and sword. I promptly get my shit pushed in and die. From there it seems like he tried to RR me, which I mention in dchat as hes E swording my corpse and I notice it hitting my head. He dismembers my leg however, loots me and runs as he claimed above.

From there he enters sec, throws the gear into disposals, loots armory and runs into the borg. The mediborg was carrying everyones equipment back from disposals, he says some things to the borg before starting to leave sec. On his way out he tried at least twice to tell the borg something along the lines of “law 2, unalive yourself.”

At that point I largely tuned out what was happening until I get revived. When I am finally revived I stay in medical bay for a significant amount of time for two main reasons. One, I do not want to break the rule of forgetting after death, but added I am missing my leg. I stay in medical for quite some time, I hear some e-sword noises under medical, hear some fighting.

The exact parts here are relatively blurry for me, but there was a rather large group fight in southern medical maints with iirc the HOP, another sec off, and myself against Malcolm. This yields roughly nothing, I return to medical to wait for my leg to get sewn back on. During all of this I believe the HOP mentions that he has the NAD since it was in my armored vest and he is wearing such.

After this I return to sec, gear back up, and get back on the hunt after hearing multiple times about this guy murdering multiple people and the large fight. I proceed to hear E-sword noises east of sec, so I wheel over there and get into a fight with them. On part of my favorite spamflash GL tactic, goes about as well as expected. I nearly kill them with the E-gun before dying myself. They cut my heat off, rip out my brain, and shove it in a box nearby.

HOP finds my body, looks around, finds my brain in the box, gets me cloned at medical. I get hauled around by the brig phys and medical for quite some time as they fix my brain damage and cell damage. At some point during this I gather my stuff from my locker, during which there is plenty of talk on comms about, Malcom going around murdering people and medical being welderbombed.

I end up in medical after getting the cell damage fixed, and find a couple officers yelling about Malcom being in southeastern medical. I walk around, find nothing, get told he ran into east maints. I check east maints, the man is already dead.

Proceed to drag his corpse to sec, strip him of his gear and try to gather all of the lost sec gear. The discussion of what to do with him comes up before we realize he went soulless. Following this it was suggested we hang them, and on part of the CE and a large portion of the crew, they are hanged in front of bridge in a special display.

I think that roughly wraps up what I saw had happened during the round when they were alive.

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There would be no roleplay from your part, let me tell you this already. You would have done what every security officer/warden out of brig does, which is wordlessly arresting me. Did you expect me to just stand there and not move, while I write something for you, so you can line up your disabler shots on me?

You had all the time in the world to run away from me, especially since you got hit twice by the energy crossbows bolts, and you were still up (due to op warden coat). Instead you kept pursuing me, a traitor armed with lethal gear. You died for it. I cut off your leg and then turned on your sensors to maximum. I also looted you.

Again later on, you find me, with an energy sword, and try your luck. You die for it, again, and this time you pay the price. Remember that at any moment you could have retreated, or regrouped with other sec members.

You could have also tried to not immediately spam flashbangs in my face, and maybe talk. I generally speaking don’t hurt people who are in the middle of writing a message, unless they literally start doing it during close quarters combat (and even then, I usually stop attacking after a stray hit from lag or so).

Im generally pretty receptive to security trying to talk to me, you didn’t try. Remember that you have infinite revives. I have one. If I fuck up even once, my round is over. You’ll probably be revived when the same self-destructive moth paramedic walks into maintenance and heatseeks on your body.

I don’t expect security officers to roleplay with me at this point, since you people seem to be allergic to that, so I just did my thing.

This is a salt report by some desperate dude trying to get me banned. I feel like I’m in kindergarten again where my classmate tells on me to my teacher, lol.

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I might understand where a lot of confusion might be coming from with this:

Does role-playing mean doing the duties of your assigned role on the station @evafan?

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That’s what everyone on this server is doing, so yes. Especially when going beyond that is either met with no response, or punishment.

I personally think roleplay goes beyond doing your job minigame - but hey. If every security officer is content with arresting every antag like it’s a sport, why should I bend over and let them do it? They don’t wanna roleplay, they want action? Then they get action. I even went out of my way to make death of those validhunter players as consequence-free as possible by not removing them/guarding their body, and generally not punishing people who have the audacity to walk up to an armed antag and try and snatch the corpse off of him.

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:+1:

I’ve reviewed the logs more thoroughly than when I was handling the tickets in-game regarding the single encounter. I pinged other available admins for input and the decision was unanimous for all available admins to move forward with this.

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At least the automod stopped them before anyone else had to see their poetically written parting messages.

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