[Ethnius] Lying in ban appeals

Rules Broken: Lying by posting an incomplete log of an admin ticket and saying it was:

The entire ticket for context

Incident Description:

When asked to provide a transcript of the ticket gave the response of:

[2020-05-16 21:55:05.751] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ethnius/(John Smith)->Isy232/(XCIR): Hey, got a minute?
[2020-05-16 21:55:27.333] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ethnius/(John Smith)->Isy232/(XCIR): Why did you disobey your laws and harm captain?
[2020-05-16 21:55:39.986] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): He purged me, while purged I set turrets to lethal
[2020-05-16 21:56:50.352] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ethnius/(John Smith)->Isy232/(XCIR): Look, just because your laws are purged for a couple seconds doesn’t give you the OKAY to be a shitter. #You wait for them to upload the next laws and if they dont, then you can be a shitter (but even then, Ai players have been banned in the past for being purged AIs)
[2020-05-16 21:57:28.793] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): Okay, well, now I know, I wont do it again
[2020-05-16 21:57:46.014] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): There is no rule on this on the rules page
[2020-05-16 21:57:57.919] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): Unless it was updated within the last week or so
[2020-05-16 21:58:13.977] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ethnius/(John Smith)->Isy232/(XCIR): Actually those rules are have COMMON SENSE, and BE EXCELLENT TO EACH OTHER
[2020-05-16 21:58:35.290] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): No, dont even try
[2020-05-16 21:58:49.150] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): I follow what my laws are from second to second
[2020-05-16 21:58:56.231] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): As an unfeeling machine
[2020-05-16 21:59:22.640] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): Thats my common sense

I know for a fact that this is not the entire ticket. You did not provide the part where you mentioned something about just settling for a note. I remember that bit clearly.

Additional Information:

Round ID: 16013

Place of incident: Isy232 Silicon Banned - #13 by xDyou

Parts left out
[2020-05-16 21:55:10.175] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): Yes
[2020-05-16 22:01:59.287] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ethnius/(John Smith)->Isy232/(XCIR): Well, I'm just gonna high severity note for this behvious, make sure it doesn't happen again.

Your admin interactions for the entire round

[2020-05-16 21:55:05.751] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ethnius/(John Smith)->Isy232/(XCIR): Hey, got a minute?
[2020-05-16 21:55:10.175] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): Yes
[2020-05-16 21:55:27.333] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ethnius/(John Smith)->Isy232/(XCIR): Why did you disobey your laws and harm captain?
[2020-05-16 21:55:39.986] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): He purged me, while purged I set turrets to lethal
[2020-05-16 21:56:50.352] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ethnius/(John Smith)->Isy232/(XCIR): Look, just because your laws are purged for a couple seconds doesn't give you the OKAY to be a shitter. #You wait for them to upload the next laws and if they dont, then you can be a shitter (but even then, Ai players have been banned in the past for being purged AIs)
[2020-05-16 21:57:28.793] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): Okay, well, now I know, I wont do it again
[2020-05-16 21:57:46.014] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): There is no rule on this on the rules page
[2020-05-16 21:57:57.919] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): Unless it was updated within the last week or so
[2020-05-16 21:58:13.977] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ethnius/(John Smith)->Isy232/(XCIR): Actually those rules are have COMMON SENSE, and BE EXCELLENT TO EACH OTHER
[2020-05-16 21:58:35.290] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): No, dont even try
[2020-05-16 21:58:49.150] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): I follow what my laws are from second to second
[2020-05-16 21:58:56.231] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): As an unfeeling machine
[2020-05-16 21:59:22.640] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Isy232/(XCIR)->Ethnius/(John Smith): Thats my common sense
[2020-05-16 22:01:59.287] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Ethnius/(John Smith)->Isy232/(XCIR): Well, I'm just gonna high severity note for this behvious, make sure it doesn't happen again.
[2020-05-16 22:03:58.135] ADMINPRIVATE: Ethnius/(John Smith) has created a note for Isy232: As AI, was purged for only a couple seconds but turned on their Lasers to attempt to kill the captain who was changing their laws. Said they would not do it again.
[2020-05-16 22:19:52.083] ADMINPRIVATE: Ethnius/(John Smith) has deleted a note for Isy232: As AI, was purged for only a couple seconds but turned on their Lasers to attempt to kill the captain who was changing their laws. Said they would not do it again.
[2020-05-16 22:23:42.540] ADMINPRIVATE: Ethnius/(John Smith) has created a global temporary 1 week role ban from 3 roles for Isy232. Roles: AI, Cyborg, pAI Reason: I will be applying a week AI job ban so you familiarize yourself with Silicon Policy on the Beestation Wiki \nhttps://wiki.beestation13.com/view/Silicon_policy\nAs AI, was purged for only a couple seconds but in that timeframe turned on their lasers to kill the captain who was changing their laws. This is not MRP acceptable behaviour.

Missed the tail piece of the ban appeal where you claimed you were told you were going to be noted only to end up banned instead. That alone I wouldn’t have major issue with (though it’s still pretty uncool to 180 from no ban to a week ban)

But later posting “The entire ticket for context” and leaving out the part where you told them it would be a note is shady af.

again, trialmin. Unlike most admemes like kevster, I don’t know where to find the entire ticket and how to filter out tickets. I posted the entire ticket as I remembered it from the game logs I downloaded and was just copy and pasting from the game logs onto notepad.
Genuine mistake on my part, and I will ask how to do this from other admins so this doesn’t happen again. If it happens again, then feel free to call me out on it.

And the change of decision was decided when I was talking with Superdork who said a more appropriate punishment should be applied for such a bad AI move. So I changed the note to a roleban, because we both agreed it should have a harsher punishment.

One of the things that was a mess up on Ethnius part was not disclosing the full ticket, I do remember he was originally going to give you a High Severity note but later on in the round decided to go back and change that to a ban.

Points that I think Ethnius could of changed during it was letting yourself know that he was going to lay down a ban instead and that he was removing the High Severity note and and not omitting the full ticket.

Anyways I’ll be reviewing this with Lago when he comes online.

I’ve discussed the report with other Head Admins, He has been spoken to about his actions and is to be more cautious in the future.

I want to tack on that I’ve taught them the tricks of the trade when it comes to log diving, so they can properly sort logs by keywords instead of manually reading through every line (which is what happened here when they missed part of the ticket)