CKEY: Dropko
Admin’s CKEY: Ro5490
Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Sage
Ban Type: Role
Ban Length: 1w
Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 11/24/2020
Round ID: 24355
Ban Reason: Global Job-Ban: Attempted to perma-brig the mime, beat them in the shuttle after an attempted escape attempt, ending in the mime being in crit, then spaced after trying to crawl back onto the shuttle. - Tl;Dr they left a crit mime to die in gulag ending in the mimes death. Claimed it was a suicide IC(not in ahelp)
Appeal Reason: Unjust sentence
Additional Information: What went on - I joined the station that had no HOS and two officers and brig. I volunteered to play HOS. After initial communication with officers I went to cells to inspect. I saw mime being released in a moment so I stayed around to let him out. As soon as his cell door was opened he went and attacked the brig physician immediately leading to him getting a second elevated sentence for 5 minutes (this is absolute disregard for the law, 5 minutes is necessary even if it was a minor assault). During his sentence his cell windows were broken an he tried to escape and started placing down invis walls to obstruct officers. This lead to him having a major sentence. I personally gave the mime the option to choose between between perma and gulag, even though I didn’t have to. He chose gulag. I personally escorted him to lavaland, told him I will be back in a few minutes to check if he mined. After getting back on the shuttle I noticed he boarded as well. He was flashed and taken back to gulag, without an harm. His PDA was taken away thrown on the ground and I tried to get back to brig again. He boarded again. He was punched a couple of times with bare hands, I don’t recall how much but it was definitely not enough to crit him (5-6? torso) then I flashed him and tried to make my way to lavaland and he crawled out of the shuttle and spaced HIMSELF.
This resulted in me being banned for ALL HEAD ROLES AND ALL OF SECURITY FOR A WEEK.
Now let me ask you this - how many people play sec on this server? Every single round there is lack of officers. Why? Becuase you force the officers to let people shit on their heads all shift in fear of getting banned. I get that there are some officers powertripping, but that needs a HOS to keep them in line or admin to slap them on their wrist, but honestly this is pretty ridiculous to get banned FOR A WEEK FROM ALL HEAD ROLES AND ALL OF SECURITY even though I showed HEAPS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MIME TO COMPLY.
I’d like my sentence to be reduced to 24-72hrs ban on HOS, since I take it on myself that the mime died - he shouldn’t and I understand that. However, I do not think I have acted irrationally or unprofessionally and I have showed more compassion than a random HOS shows on a typical Sage shift unfortunatelly.
Secondly I’d like to bring up the process in which I was banned by Ro5490. Even though we were in the process of investigating the issue and he admitted that my decision to perma resolution for the mime was just, he proceeded to BAN ME FOR A WEEK, even though I said that it is unfortunate for the mime to die and that it should not have happened. I’d very much appreciate if would be explained to him what kind of actions lead to week long bans.
Full admin conversation below:
Admin PM from- Ro5490 : Mind telling me the reason behind perma gulagging mino, then beating him to crit and claiming suicide once he was spaced?
PM to- Admins : 1. it was his third offence within 5 minutes, he had increasing sentences from the beginning 2. he was brought to gulag two times and both times got back on the shuttle intending to get back on the station 3. he was not in crit, he crawled out of the shuttle by himself while it was traveling
Admin PM from- Ro5490 : [19:11:14] (Mimo) (Labor Camp Shuttle (16, 52, 5)) has been grabbed by (Ryan Kerfuffle) passive grab (NEWHP: -15)
Admin PM from- Ro5490 : he was in crit
PM to- Admins : unfortunate… do you want people to shit over security? he was released after his first offence and he could have walked out… instead he immediatelly went and attacked the brig physician… when given a 5 minute sentence he tried to escape when the cell windows were breached… after that I GAVE HIM A CHOICE to be perma’d or gulaged, he said gulag, then proceeded to get back on the ship twice refusing to be gulaged and just work his way back to station… what kind of patience should I have? I am here to make order… I gave him heaps of chances to just behave normal.
Admin PM from- Ro5490 : Please dont leave people you’re arresting/brigging/gulaging to die in the future, I understand the increased brigging time and the perma though.
You have been banned by Ro5490 from Roles: Captain, Head of Personnel, Head of Security, Chief Engineer, Research Director, Chief Medical Officer, Warden, Detective, Security Officer, Brig Physician, Deputy. Reason: Global Job-Ban: Attempted to perma-brig the mime, beat them in the shuttle after an attempted escape attempt, ending in the mime being in crit, then spaced after trying to crawl back onto the shuttle. - Tl;Dr they left a crit mime to die in gulag ending in the mimes death. Claimed it was a suicide IC(not in ahelp)
This ban is temporary, it will be removed in 1 week. This ban applies to all of our servers. The round ID is 24355.
You can no longer reply to this ticket, please open another one by using the Adminhelp verb if need be.
Message: thank you, I’ll try… I though he would just accept the sentence… I will tone it down