Incident Description:
As I was in crit after a fight against an enemy agent while I was myself a heretic, Robert Langley arrives with who I can only assume was his chosen councillor (the chaplain). Obviously confused, he stayed out of the fight until the cybersun operative left the area. It is when he started trying to save me that he realised I had one of my hand coated in the mansus grasp (which cannot be retracted when in crit). In an attempt to stop my evil or whatever, he cut off my arm, killing me in the process due to the damages sustained.
Something like 5 or 10 minutes later, I get revived by the chaplain in the brig medbay, my arm still missing and my other arm too damaged to use. Robert comes back and they ask me what my issue is. We speak for a bit but the conversation doesn’t go anywhere and it spirals in even less pertinent topic as I tell them my head is spinning to which they try and get me blood in a very silly (and a bit funny) argument, taking their own blood from syringe and injecting me with it.
My two arms still disabled, my round ended with another heretic accidently decapitating me as I was unable to defend myself or flee because none of my arms were healed yet.
Additional Information:
Pretty much sucked all the fun I had of an already yucky round to be honest, I had done no harm except for one unrecorded incident and my arrest should have been for no more than 5 minute for religious practice outside of the chapel
Sorry it ruined your round a little, but here’s how things happened from my perspective so my actions make more sense to you. Two large explosions occur, likely targeting me since it was at the HOP line. Then security comms get taken down and security gets picked off one by one. I get reports of an operative being spotted and a heretic. As you can imagine these things have put me on edge as I’m now a HOP-turned-Captain-turned-solo head with no security.
A little while later I’m trying to deal with a chemist not working in medbay when I see a bunch of lethal lasers fly down by the chapel hallway. I take the chaplain with me to investigate and stumble upon a fight going on between you, unbeknownst to me at the time, a heretic, and a syndicate operative who was a ninja or something?
The operative runs off so I epipen you and ask the chaplain to beat you with the bible to heal you. You whisper some vaguely threatening statements and I notice you have mansus grasp. I don’t have any way to restrain you and I didn’t know you hadn’t done anything yet so I thought I know, the delimb PR is here so I can just slice your mansus arm off, boom you are disarmed literally and figuratively and I can heal you without getting killed by you as soon as you stand up. Well I succeed in cutting your arm off, but you die. My bad.
I pick you up and run you over to the brig medbay, phoning the brig physician along the way. They never show up. I ask the chaplain if they know surgery since IC I don’t but I want you revived, they said they didn’t but then revived you anyway. We talk a bit and I keep trying to help by figuring out the blood situation, but the guy I was about to demand blood from was another heretic who starts tossing grenades and whacks me with a spell and his blade. I decide I’m just going to get out of dodge and save my own neck, I leave the chaplain and you there.
At this point the shuttle is almost there and I escape to safety and find the chaplain along the way.
It sucks that I caused your death but you can’t say I didn’t try to set it right in the round. Had everything gone right and you got revived I probably would have let you go for time served being dead and all. I roleplay a bit of a coward, so it wouldn’t have made much sense for me to fight a heretic over a dead heretic with just a sword and a service pistol. Hopefully my reasoning helps things a little bit.
Just so there is no misunderstanding, I am not blaming you for not fighting, that is normal. Whether I am antag or not I would not expect the captain or HOP to basically kill himself trying to fight that dangerous of a threat.
I see the fact you also didn’t just round remove me, you wanted to revive me.
My issue is that all of this could have just been solved with my arm reattached and me being healed considering there was no real proof linking me to the recent bombing.
Now again, it’s cool you roleplayed it out instead of leaving me to rot but the scene felt stretched and unecessary.
It’s been long enough that I don’t really remember but I imagine I’d have gotten your arm put back on had the other heretic not charged in and started chucking grenades and trying to stab me. As for no proof of you bombing, I had no idea who had bombed anything, you and the syndicate official guy were the only antagonists that’d I’d seen so you were both public enemy number one and prime suspects. Getting evidence would have been a little difficult in the state the station was in so I probably would have tried talking to get you to admit to it.
Gonna jump in and add a bit of context, since you may not be aware of what actually happened.
I was one of the round start security officers that died and the reason why Jacob went vigilante (even though he was heretic).
The officers that you mentioned were not executed one by one, but were all killed in a single explosion, while chasing a gang of 2/3 antagonists. After this the station was defenseless, since you were the last remaining line of defense and we all went DNR.
When Jacob found out about my passing, he vowed vengeance and did find the criminal that was responsible for our deaths (Technically making him a good guy), but instead of helping him, you’ve finished him off, when he was in crit from his fight against the syndicate agent, and tortured him once he was brought back. I watched the entire event unfold, since I was interested on how will Jacob get his revenge. And you executing and arresting Jacob, when he was trying to do good was an over-exagiration (Though you were unaware of his goals).
The time he spent dead was around-ish 10 minutes and once he was revived you mocked him even more. (He was already pissed and you threw more fuel into the fire).
Not sure what sentence you’ve considered, but from your perspective all you’ve seen that he had a Green-hand and a Red-sun syndicate run off into the maints. At worst Jacob should have been charged with religious practice outside chapel and should have been considered a low-tier crime.
P.S. @DarnTheMarn I’ll ask you one thing, please next time as a captain communicate with your officers more. It felt like you were busy doing your own random shenanigans, when we needed a leader or a voice. We had to fight with disablers against lethal weapons and grenades. When I tried to talk to you, you brushed me off focusing on something else.
Good to have more information. I didn’t know they all died in one big explosion, I saw the one dead guy in medbay and didn’t hear from anyone else so I figured they just got blown up. Sec comms went down pretty early so I had no idea who was doing what and where and no one responded so I figure everybody had died. I wasn’t about to run in guns blazing, I was just a paper pusher so I got the chaplain to protect me seeing as how heretics are religious.
I don’t know what you mean by torturing him or making fun of him, that wasn’t my intention if it came off like that. If the torture is about the Bible part, it has a chance to heal someone and that was our best option for healing at that point. All I really said once he was back up was a quote from the sopranos, I said “alright but you gotta get over it” when he talked about his friends death. I don’t think that is mocking, in a situation like the one we were in that’s a reasonable thing to do.
I was the chaplain this shift, i didn’t have a forum account prior to this post because i really don’t enjoy forum drama and dealing with reports. anyways, i would like to clarify i got chosen to be deputized by the hop and follow him around to make sure he no one robusted him and dragged him into maints (pretty much i was his holy bodyguard ).
the first 2 replies describe it rather well, the hop ended up killing Jacob by cutting his arm off and taking him to brig medbay him to medbay, where the hop called the brig physician but he never came. Me and the HOP waited a bit and the hop decided one of us should revive him , he asked me if i knew surgery and i said that i didn’t know a lot about it, (i believe chaplains should know a little about healing because fantasy priests are usually healers, i also made this exception because the shuttle was called and i didn’t want Jacob to stay dead for even longer) but revived him anyways. once he got revived he had very little blood, so my priority was to stabilize Jacob and let the hop release him so we start checking if one of us had a matching blood profile with Jacob, some guy comes around, we try to collect some of his blood cuz he was an universal donor, we get attacked and run away from brig and leave Jacob and my pet cat alone with the heretic.
i couldn’t really have attached your arm back because my chaplain character is not that advanced at healing and i wanted to leave it to a real doctor.
It’s a shame that happened to you. the only mistake i see here made by the H.O.P. was cutting your arm off instead of just getting a pair of cuffs of cables from somewhere but maybe he was just trying to play safe with you
Edit: apparently it was just a low tier crime to be a heretic outside of chapel, which is interesting to me because i’m not a security player, my point stands that you should not have cut his arm off and you should have really just taken him to medbay at that point and get cuffs while he was being revived.
Having taken in both sides and the cirumstances of the round, the only things that really stands out to me is cutting the arm off when they’re already unable to do any further harm, especially in the context that they were only known to be using it for necessary self-defense.
And this:
Assuming guilt and taking action because of assumed guilt is bad. You don’t assume someone is a murderer or otherwise extremely dangerous unless it has been witnessed, especially not someone who’s already downed. Heat of the moment and all that too, but this is still a generally bad frame of mind to approach someone with.
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, he asked me if i knew surgery and i said that i didn’t know a lot about it, (i believe chaplains should know a little about healing because fantasy priests are usually healers, i also made this exception because the shuttle was called and i didn’t want Jacob to stay dead for even longer) but revived him anyways. once he got revived he had very little blood, so my priority was to stabilize Jacob and let the hop release him so we start checking if one of us had a matching blood profile with Jacob, some guy comes around, we try to collect some of his blood cuz he was an universal donor, we get attacked and run away from brig and leave Jacob and my pet cat alone with the heretic. 
