CKEY: Not megatron
Admin’s CKEY: brotherhangyul
Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Sage
Which server did the ban happen on? sage
Ban Type: Security
Ban Length: 6 days
Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2020-10-06 20:33
Round ID: 22274
Ban Reason: Beat a mime to 17 HP for taking their briefcase, helped somebody kill them when they were repaired. Advised by Mat. Massive history of shitsec.
Appeal Reason: I beat up a mime for being a shitter. Minor crimes, petty theft, vandalism, assault, stuff like that. The mime healed up, came back, and started fucking with me, so I beat them up again. Then an unga chaplain jumped in and assblasted the mime into oblivion before I could stop them, causing them to die. This is manslaughter at worst. The mime would have been fine if not for the unga chaplain who, as far as I can tell, had no reason to attack. It’s unfortunate they died, but they died as a result of the chaplain, not me.
Additional Information: For starters it was an IPC and IPCs can’t feel pain and are ridiculously easy to fix. I only hit the mime in the leg, and intentionally so, which you cannot (cannot) die from. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not so deluded that I don’t think this was shitcurity, but that’s how you deal with shitters. You talk nice to the people who will listen, and you club the people who are just going to continue to cause problems
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I agree with his methods.
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If you want to beat someone up for fucking around then go play LRP, lmao
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Ah yes, using lethals against someone who is a ‘shitter’. Just the appeal makes me want to reject it.
Edit: Also why do you think IPCs can’t feel pain?
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Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
When will you learn that as security you cannot harmbaton for every sngle problem? It is IMMENSE shitsec and above all massive over-escalation and self-antagging. You’ve done this so many fucking times and you still refuse to learn this.
Also, SS13 uses a brute damage system. They can die from leg damage if you hit them enough times. Your entire attitude to security screams that you don’t care for the rules nor space law; you can use the IPC stuff as an RP excuse, but here’s the thing; It’s not RP to harmbaton everybody who breaks space law. As security, you are held to a higher standard than most players. If you cannot be bothered to read space law, don’t fucking play security.
As for the chaplain, you helped, tripping them when they tried to escape. Assisted murder at best, 3rd degree murder at worst. I’m going to get other opinions but this appeal reeks of shitsec.
I am pretty sure dets baton does no stam damage in harm intent so there is 0 reason to use it if not shitsec.
It deals about 10~ish brute damage per hit, maybe 15.
What’s the point if it doesn’t stun?
The ban should stay, you can’t just “beat up” people for their crimes.
It stuns limbs iirc. Good for thinning a crowd.
Only if you target limbs w/ help intent. They harmbatoned legs and dealt about 80 points of brute damage 4noraisins
why would IPCs be given the abiltiy to feel pain. they are humanoid robots
Because feeling pain is very important. Have you ever read how hard it is for people who don’t feel pain?
by the way can i know how come they feel pain?
Gotta say I agree with his methods and if chap killed the mime when he wasn’t going to I see no real harm being done by him if he was attacked first.
Well some form of sensors? No idea, not an IPC expert kek
Det wasn’t attacked first. His suitcase was taken so his immediate response was attacking him with a baton to 17 HP. Acceptable on LRP, not MRP
This ban was initially a server ban. Sec ban is a little more reasonable, I’ll admit, but still gotta make the appeal, yannow?
IPCs can’t feel pain for the same reason they don’t have willies and hoohahs and vestigial organs: they are build and not born, designed and not evolved.
Anyway, here’s the chain of events:
Mime steals my briefcase, I yakkety sax them for a while and they get away. I look for the briefcase and don’t find it in disposals so I figure the mime has hid it. Later I see mime hacking sec doors so I take them aside and club them a few times in an attempt to discourage future shittery, then let them go, my bloodlust sated. I took their ID to go see if they hid my briefcase in the theater. Not there, very sad. I continue about my business and see mime causing more trouble in the hopline. I don’t interfere until mime runs up to me and starts pushing me some more, and the rest is history.
Hangyul makes me look like a fucking beacon of logic and reason. The fact alone that he decided to take my ticket despite very vocally disliking me, thinking I am shit and autistic and bad, does not speak well for his judgement. I’d say you’re just lying, but your MO seems to be to repeat bullshit until you actually believe it.
For example, this line about tripping them as they tried to escape… You just… you just made that up. You saw a log where I pushed them over and invented a narrative to make me look as evil as possible. Consider the fact that I did not use my baton- I was clubbing them with my maglight. It’s a minor nitpick, but it highlights the fact that you are relying more on your overactive imagination than the actual facts of the incident.
The only part of this that you didn’t just pull out of your noodle is “don’t beat people up for crimes,” and, well. Perhaps.
@GameAdmin Either some serious salt from Megatron, or Hangy was actually lying. First one is much more likely, lol
Why do people keep thinking robots do not feel pain? This doesn’t make sense at all.