Atliax1 banned by Admin whyiscaeciliustaken

CKEY: Atliax1

Admin’s CKEY: whyiscaeciliustaken

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Both

Ban Type: Server

Ban Length: 2 weeks

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 4.28.2020

Round ID: 15236

Ban Reason: Broke into the armoury and tried to kill all of sec with their “friend” because they were permabrigged.

Appeal Reason: The ban reason is simply not true , me and a ‘‘friend’’ of mine were permabrigged because we pushed a clown who was annoying us a few time . After we got perma we escape along with another prisoner and with the help of the chaplain , from there on we got weapons from the corpses of sec officers killed by the chaplain , a medibot oppened the door to the sec office and we went to recharge our weapons for self-defence . A sec officer appeared and then he screamed for reinforcements, we escaped in the locker room , from there we hacked into the armory because we knew they were coming for us . We were rushed and so we tried to escape sec , we did not plan on “mass murder” and we did not commit a “killing spree” . After we tried to escape from the armory i got caught and thrown in solitary . A warden there tried to space me and in self-defense i killed her (that’s the only thing i am guilty of) . Then the admin got notified .

Additional Information: Half the time we weren’t shooting to kill / our guns were set to stun mode . In addition i want to say that we got permabrigged for a very bad reason , we did not try to kill the clown and we were undeserving of being permabrigged.Another thing i have to mention is that i did not even plan on killing the warden despite her trying to space me but i had no other choice since i didn’t have a sec ID to get out of solitary else i would have ran away . Oh yeah , also again we did NOT try to kill ALL of sec we just wanted to breakout of the unjust permabrigg .

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I’d say thats pretty reasonable. the only person killed was warden, on the base that they were gonna space him.

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Yet another case of “local person gets banned for defending themself from shitsec” that probably could have been avoided if you Ahelped them

Rather it’s a local man that gets permad, escapes and then goes back for revenge.

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only shitsec would arrest someone for shoving a clown

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Which is why he should have ahelped the perma. But he broke out, took guns, then went back in “for a recharge” and then - yeah, that’s a bit much.

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Shitty situation all around, to be honest.

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Getting ahelp was the last thing on my mind . Why should i get ahelp and waste the admin’s time everytime sec does something stupid ?

That is quite literally the admin’s job. To make sure people are doing their job, in this case that they didn’t abusively perma. For example, if you look at the ban list now, a guy got banned from sec because he didn’t consider assistants worthy to mindshield.

You should have ahelped and I’d have dealt with it. Breaking out of an invalid permabrigging is allowed, killing the warden in revenge and looting the armoury is not. Shooting at innocent sec officers and the detective with lasers for trying to stop you is certainly not.

I didn’t kill the warden “in revenge” , she tried to space me and i fought back . What was i suppose to do - let her space me ? But yes the rest is true .

Did he go out of brig and later came to kill warden and sec?

To clarify the situation further , we did not plan on some petty revenge on sec for permabrigging us . We did what we did to avoid being caught in order to escape, all the killing was done in self defense , they shot first .I have nothing more to say on the matter and i stay by my words .

We escaped the brig but not the sec sector .We didn’t have sec ID’s all corpses presented were looted .

Brig is the entire ‘sec’ sector, or many people, including me, consider it. Have you made it to the ‘free’ side of the station?

Nope , we did not make it on the free side.

So prisoners escaped, fearing for their lives they grabbed weapons and killed one or more security, and you banned them for it? This is a normal response for a person that’s been in jail, not that I’m one, but watch some shit on the internet, prisoners hate guards and police, and if they are put into death row, which is like perma on SS13, they are gonna just go killing sec because they are already dead, nothing broken here.

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prisoners killing security in self defense after escaping from perma, innocent or not, should be an IC issure imo

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Exactly, they were caught by security, they were put to perma, which most likely ends their round/life, why wouldn’t they hate entire security and kill them first occasion after being freed?

Edit: And because of that prisoners want to kill security, since they put them to ‘life long’ prison, they are valid to them and should not be punished OOC at all. Ban is invalid because it’s just IC issue.

Edit2: Make MRP a hugbox more with such bans, certainly gonna help.

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@Caecilius so, nothing? I’m interested in how is this appeal gonna go.