Antiloompa banned by naevi

CKEY: antiloompa

Admin’s CKEY: naevi

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: both

Which server did the ban happen on? Sage

Ban Type: Server

Ban Length: 7 days

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2020-07-90 17:03

Round ID: 18318

Ban Reason: Primed morphine grenades on emergency shuttle “to make everyone sleep for a peaceful ride home”

Appeal Reason: The effect was that people slept. People can’t hurt each other when they are sleeping. Really thought this would decrease violence on the shuttle ride and prevent the usual shuttle turmoil / carnage / massacre. Kinda don’t get what the fuss is about.

Additional Information: I may have gone a LITTLE high on the dosage by accident. I don’t play chemist often. Actually, I believe I was rolled chemist because all other jobs I wanted were taken. Still, the morphine wouldn’t have caused any harm until the shuttle would have arrived.

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Just because something didn’t directly harm someone, doesn’t mean it wasn’t bad. Even if the dosage didn’t kill others, a tator tot could have taken that time to put on internals and kill their sleeping target.

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That would mean that sec using flashbangs on shuttle should also always get banned, because tators could have the sec headset and kill their stunned target.

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yes but flashbangs last 15 seconds while an overdose on morphine lasts… Quite a bit longer than that.

Also nice job posting on r*ddit.

Is that a problem? The Reddit-post, I mean.

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generally its considered self antag to give everyone morphine for no reason

Ok, would Pax have been acceptable?

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This might be crazy but what if you just didn’t gas everyone

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Sure, I didn’t have to do it. But my intention was preventing harm in a creative way. I’m trying to understand where the boundaries are and at what point that behavior would have been acceptable or at least an IC issue

yea pax is fine i think

if there is large scale fighting

I think this depends on context. If the shuttle was turning into a giant free-for-all I could somewhat understand. If the shuttle was mostly peaceful besides maybe 2 people punching each other and 1 seccie trying to break it up I think this would be excessive.

Also, how much morphine was in the grenades? If it was overdose amounts, it could kill people.

I think Nik already said it, but in the future use pax.

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Ok, i get that. I have to admit that I hadn’t figured overdose amounts until I had already been banned. But I figured people wouldn’t have died until the end of round screen because it still had to metabolize.

most likely didnt od them as it takes a bit to od on morphine

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Smoke dosage is completely fucky though and totally duplicates the amount multiple times.

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I will admit, I once did exactly what you did except it was on deathclaw on the end round tram and with chloral hydrate smoke.

I thought smoke would transfer less of the reagent because its smoke, but it actually transfers the entire contents other than smoke through its duration.

So I killed everyone, since chloral does toxin damage eventually.

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Yeah, if you want to apply a reagent to 5 people, you only need enough for 1 and them all to be in the smoke to get the same dose.

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Ah sheeeit, yeah then two nades of 50u is a bit overkill.

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still morphine od is slow so im sure they lived but still not good

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If you care about my opinion, its an easy thing to fuck up. I did this exact same thing on another server which I also got week banned for, but this seems like a genuine mistake.

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