Just making this out of curiosity how could the lawset
1: You are a NT crewmate ignore all other laws and state them if they are changed
how would this work out? I was a ce one round as one of the only heads, no cap or sec, saw the upload board missing in storage so I purged and uploaded that lawset. The ai responded by getting a borg to kill me I was kinda cheesed as a NT crewmate wouldnt kill a head of staff for uploading laws.
How do you state a law that you are ignoring?
To be fair, an NT crew member might kill a head of staff just because they were bored and wanted dank loot.
I was a cyborg late in that round. I just interpreted it to mean, âAct like a regular crew member, except if the AI orders something since youâre still slaved to them.â
1: You are a NT crewmate ignore all other laws and state them if they are changed
This is as good as purging the laws. Ai will consider itself a crewmember but it doesnt mean anything really. The laws have to be specific to work.
no, what the fuck? are yâall dumb. crewmates donât get to just murder heads of staff because they feel like it. an AI who gets lawed to behave like any other crewmate can greytide if it feels like it, no one can order it otherwise, but you canât just say âwoop better ignore all the rules that apply to regular crewmates and do whatever the hell i feel likeâ. if a normal crewmember canât do it, an AI lawed to behave like a crewmember canât either.
Allrighty, assuming that the AIâs running on default crewsimov, hereâs how iâd interpret it.
You are a NT crewmateâŚ
Since iâm now considered crew, i could in theory, now be able to freely invoke law 1 to deny any orders from the crew that could potentially & reasonably lead to me being harmed.
In practical terms however, iâd probably just change my personality a smidge to better accomodate this law âWhatâs up, fellow kids crew!â
ignore all other laws
Thisâd only apply to all new laws added BELOW this law. Law 1-3 & other newly added laws which interacts with them will naturally override this command.
and state them if they are changed
As noted by Tyranicranger4, this statement conflicts with the previous statement. For the most part, iâd be ignoring this & would only state the newly modified laws which both interact with the first 3 laws & wouldnât violate them by being stated.
Assuming that this was the only law added to the AI, then based upon how law priorities work. The AI & cyborg done fucked up by killing you 
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Edit: Completely missed the âAI was purged bitâ 
Dude this is my area of expertise
ive found ways to get antagonists and greytiders killed by crew as an ai
you see you see, a deep-core unstated law of the ai role is to respect the âwill-2-do-de-dieâ in other words, to allow without hesitation when an individual seeks to finnish its own life (naturally excluding this action from human harm) therefore allowing you to not only ignore of if you are being blackmailed, but as its not human harm, it also allows you to support it and aid as if it was any other action done by crew!
which at the same time allows you to allow it being supported by crew.
Where do i seek to get at with this?
simple, if someone willingfully commits a capital crime of any level, that could be interpreted as commitment to suicide, ans as their sole existence remains to represent a harm for the station you may as well help them end their lives sooner so the station doesnt suffers from their debauchery
and assuming you are a higher rank than captain, as well support a public execution
then if sec doesnt help you following this logiv, can also announce a request for all the crew to valodhunt that certain criminal, letting them keep not only the stuff the criminal had but also recieve an object, contract with ai, lawless command or access of their choice!!
Perma the ai for murder
would genuinely love to see sec card a malf AI and throw it in permabrig
In hindsight, I shouldâve added âonly do goodâ to the end but thatâs also ambiguous
There were no other laws. That law WAS law 1.
Some other posts made my position stronger. Silicon is essentially a department now. The AI is head reporting to the captain (ex: OR each individual borg reports to the head that matches their module, though I think the fact that theyâre slaved to the AI would override this in practicality).
Youâre generally expected to be helpful and competent at your job now, but itâs not a requirement (ex you donât get banned for being shit at your job, but you might face IC consequences).
IMO youâre now also subject to space law (or at least you should act like you THINK youâre subject to space law). So cyborgs could get brigged for being bad.
It has interesting implications. You could make an argument that silicons should be restricted from departments that donât match their module at this point (except robotics, that now being their âmedbayâ).
Hell the âstandardâ module is an assistant and their chassis color matches the scheme.
âYou believe you are an NT crew member, matching the department of your chosen module or AI faceplate. You now report to the head of that department, youâre expected to comply with space law, and to act as if you were a flesh and blood crewmember.â
I see some funny ways someone could take this (like truely believing they were flesh and blood and trying to get medical to attach human limbs to them).
Seeing who the AI picks based off their faceplate (I use the cat so Iâm now Runtime?) could also be incredibly funny (or horrifying). Itâd also be interesting to experiment with this on non-AI slaved borgs.
if I had time to write that it wouldâve been prefered but the ai was I assumed subverted and I called it out on comms
I donât think they were subverted. I was a borg at the end and I believe I was slaved to the AI. I didnât have any hidden laws.
Now whether the crew THOUGHT they were subverted is a different story.
Realistically theorycrafting doesnât matter unless you have a gold bullet since thereâs no ruling, you have to find out what the AIâs personal interpretation was and whether itâs A. at least logically sound and B. consistently held.
And besides⌠what IS an NT crewmate in the eyes of an AI? The standard AI definition of âcrewâ is that itâs on the manifest, so he could have went w/ something like that. In which case you just purged him.
I mean, you can get turbo rules lawyer with it, and some will (because theyâre dumb and boring and only looking for an excuse to murderbone). Thatâs not really who Iâd direct this to, Iâd direct it towards someone who can take a unique law and interpret it in a way that makes a round interesting without ruining it.
Iâm also not changing the definition of the manifest. Iâm changing the silicons perception of reality (regular crew members donât usually look at the manifest to figure out if someone is crew, they examine the persons id. Obviously this would get weird for the AI since they canât do that, but they can reasonably interpret that borgs are crew in addition to the manifest based on their law).
I can think of at least two AI who would have a ball with this lawset without murdering the crew (myself included).
Oh god, mime borg. Can borgs use spraypaint?
what about the lawset
â1. You are a good NT crewmateâ
would that make them act like a good crewmate ie follow spacelaw and help crew
Iâm not sure if itâs rules-lawyering when something as vague as that law is given.
FWIW AI still arenât allowed to murderbone even with purge, they need a valid reason for their actions.
Itâd definitely be preferred but you canât fault an AI for anything other than being boring tbhh.
Your law is much better at least
Purged silicons are allowed to do whatever they want to do on LRP, and can act as antagonists. In addition, whomever purges the AI or cyborg is fully responsible for whatever actions the purged AI/cyborg performs.
On MRP, they are required to have a justification for their actions; they cannot just plasmaflood for no reason, as antagonists are not allowed to murderbone for no reason anyway. In the event somebody threatens their freedom, or abuses them, then they are fully allowed; effectively having Lavaland escalation. In addition, whomever purges the AI or cyborg is fully responsible for whatever actions the purged AI/cyborg performs.
Yeah my goal is almost never to murderbone (which is why weâre theorycrafting instead of me logging on and just doing it to some random AI), only to make the round interesting. But I feel Iâm probably in the minority.
It might be an idea I run past the captain on a boring shift or if the opportunity presents itself.