000xlynch banned by LordGrevious

CKEY: 000xlynch

Admin’s CKEY: LordGrevious

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Golden

Ban Type: day ban

Ban Length: day

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 10/27/2019

Round ID: 8464

Ban Reason: attacked a chaplain who didn’t attack anyone

Appeal Reason: This is one of those “it’s a dangerous space station with wizards that spawned guns and people using them, it’s SS13 and you die” situations when 3-4 random people on the shuttle had pulse rifle, sec rifle, etc and shot at each other.

I was defending myself, then just started fighting back by picking up a pulse rifle to take down a guy with a sec rifle, then attacked a few others. I must have attacked the chaplain or something at some point. Regardless, I hope you realize it was one of those super messy situations, if you want to ban me for a day and not those other people, then it’s completely unreasonable.

I was fighting back at people, in the sense that there 3-4 people on shuttle attacking everything, it was pure chaos, with the addition of botany’s killer mushrooms. I did not deliberately go up to the chaplain and target/murder them, it was specifically just trying to fight off people in my vicinity, the chaplain being collateral damage.

This is a stain on my record that I hope you understand is unreasonable, seeing as it was one of those chaotic shuttle ends where most people had guns and 3-4 people shot each other.

Additional Information:
Admin has poor perspective and only sees it from the Chaplain’s point of view. If this was any other round with less chaos, my actions would not be reasonable, however, given the circumstances, I did not specifically target the Chaplain, it was a total brawl with people getting hurt (including myself) and should be considered from a different perspective - I was just shooting at people around me who were attacking things and mistook the Chaplain as one of the 3-4 who started the fight.

Relevant logs:

[2019-10-28 01:26:53.421] ATTACK: Shark-sie/(Theo Legend) has shaken Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) (NEWHP: 43.6) (Medbay Treatment Center (86, 104, 2))
[2019-10-28 01:31:17.346] ATTACK: no key/(�Medibot) has injected Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with internal synthesizer /datum/reagent/medicine/spaceacillin:15 (NEWHP: 69.1) (Cargo Office (78, 138, 2))
[2019-10-28 01:31:23.890] ATTACK: no key/(�Medibot) has injected Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with internal synthesizer /datum/reagent/medicine/bicaridine:15 (NEWHP: 69.1) (Cargo Office (78, 138, 2))
[2019-10-28 01:31:33.309] ATTACK: [autolathe] has electrocuted Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) (NEWHP: 61.5) (Cargo Office (79, 137, 2))
[2019-10-28 01:31:37.835] ATTACK: no key/(�Medibot) has injected Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with internal synthesizer /datum/reagent/medicine/kelotane:15 (NEWHP: 65.4) (Cargo Office (78, 138, 2))
[2019-10-28 01:32:38.702] ATTACK: Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) has fired at [�space] with .50 bullet from Emergency Shuttle (Emergency Shuttle (105, 55, 2))
[2019-10-28 01:32:39.939] ATTACK: 12Oreos/(Kailey Basmanoff) has shoved Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with loosening their grip on the sniper rifle (NEWHP: 99) (Emergency Shuttle (106, 55, 2))
[2019-10-28 01:32:42.828] ATTACK: 12Oreos/(Kailey Basmanoff) has shoved Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with into Falion Sulvich (NEWHP: 99) (Emergency Shuttle (105, 55, 2))
[2019-10-28 01:32:56.802] ATTACK: Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) has shaken Dragonspeaks/(Trey Holdeman) (NEWHP: 72.5) (Emergency Shuttle (213, 123, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:33:53.924] ATTACK: Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) has shoved RobottJesus/(Fluff Moff) with into Roy Murray (NEWHP: 100) (Emergency Shuttle (212, 112, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:08.850] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has shot Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with 9mm bullet (NEWHP: 75.5) (Emergency Shuttle (208, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:08.999] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has shot Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with 9mm bullet (NEWHP: 62) (Emergency Shuttle (208, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:09.500] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has shot Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with 9mm bullet (NEWHP: 44) (Emergency Shuttle (208, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:10.234] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has shot Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with 9mm bullet (NEWHP: 6.8) (Emergency Shuttle (208, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:11.344] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has fired at Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with 9mm bullet from Emergency Shuttle (NEWHP: 6.8) (Emergency Shuttle (207, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:11.505] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has fired at Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with 9mm bullet from Emergency Shuttle (NEWHP: 6.8) (Emergency Shuttle (207, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:11.511] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has shot Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with 9mm bullet (NEWHP: -11.2) (Emergency Shuttle (207, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:11.721] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has shot Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with 9mm bullet (NEWHP: -29.2) (Emergency Shuttle (208, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:16.964] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has fired at Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with 4.6x30mm bullet from Emergency Shuttle (NEWHP: -29.7) (Emergency Shuttle (208, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:17.036] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has fired at Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with the electrode from Emergency Shuttle (NEWHP: -29.7) (Emergency Shuttle (208, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:17.040] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has shot Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with 4.6x30mm bullet (NEWHP: -47.7) (Emergency Shuttle (208, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:17.132] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has shot Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) with the electrode (NEWHP: -47.7) (Emergency Shuttle (208, 113, 12))
[2019-10-28 01:34:34.013] ATTACK: Moccha/(Moccha Poehl) Has succumbed to death while in hard critical with -49.4 points of health! (Emergency Shuttle (208, 115, 12))

All I see here is the Chaplain firing into space then getting shoved and then you shooting him repeatedly into hard crit. I can understand how the situation can be confusing but this does not line up with the story you gave me in ahelps that you didn’t know who the chaplain was and you just shot some guy who was fighting with other people.

You’re right, you asked me who the Chaplain was and in game I told you I wasn’t sure who it was.

In fact, I wasn’t sure who all those 3-4 crew were, I was literally attacking whoever I thought was shooting guns at me in the little 4x4 shuttle corner.

It all happened so fast, 3-4 people came onto shuttle, some had guns, some shot, some didn’t, some innocent bystanders like Chaplain were there too, it was just messy. I apologize again that Chaplain was hurt by my actions, but it wasn’t intended at all.

I’m not doubting your judgement as an admin or anything, but I ask you to reconsider your decision to ban me and remove the ban, since it was a very messy occurrence. I didn’t mean to harm the chaplain as an individual, I merely sought to fight back at the greytide/wizard/survivalists hurting me.

Hope you can make a decision soon whether to unban me or not, so I can play some tonight.

I was spectating when this was going down, and it looked like you were just running up to people at random and shooting them. I thought you were an antag until the round ended.

Rejecting since it’s ended anyway and I upheld my original call.