Zookzacoons job ban appeal

CKEY: Zookzacoon

Admin’s CKEY: RukoFamicom

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Both

Ban Type: Head Roles

Ban Length: Expires 9999-01-01 12:00

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 03/18/2020

Round ID: 13579

Ban Reason: Told the AI that Lizards and Felinids weren’t crew, sent out a station broadcast ordering their execution.

Appeal Reason: I’ve done similar things on MRP before, and I was never bwoinked for it.

Additional Information: Ruko also failed to bwoink me before banning me, not allowing me any say or to explain my side, I also haven’t played Bee in Seven months, so I’ve forgotten a lot of the rules, and am adjusting to the new standards.

Additional Information: Ruko also failed to bwoink me before banning me, not allowing me any say or to explain my side

This did occur and is unusually out of character for me. I didn’t know the ban alert was sent if a ticket wasn’t active and I also knew the captain was about to have a scuffle with security because the HoS had just been authorized to overthrow the captain after making contact with CentCom about the issue.

Additionally, I’d just taken part in your unbanning, so I already knew about your extensive history despite having played only 38 hours and gotten 12 notes (now 13). There wasn’t much justification for what you did as a captain on a Greenshift either.

I also haven’t played Bee in Seven months, so I’ve forgotten a lot of the rules, and am adjusting to the new standards.

You flat out told me you didn’t even re-read the rules, claiming they didn’t load for you, but you got right over to the forums that now hosts your ban appeal immediately after the ban was given.

TL;DR for others: Just off of a perma ban, doesn’t read rules, breaks rules, gets banned again. Not even full ban, but head ban.

Local Man returns to game after being banned for 7 months, rolls captain, tells the AI that Lizards and Felinids aren’t crew & sends out a station broadcast ordering their execution, and is surprised when they promptly get head banned for doing that.

Back when I played Bee captains did that all the time to my defense

If I remember right, the server you were playing on didn’t exist at the time you last played.

Yeah MRP didn’t exist 7 months ago. It was LRP only.

I don’t even know what to call the original server, I’ll just call it OG LRP, and given how people act on MRP, I just kind of think that’s accepted, monkey see monkey do as they say, I mean people violate the rules all the time and I don’t see them getting smacked so I just kinda think that’s normal.

I mean people violate the rules all the time and I don’t see them getting smacked so I just kinda think that’s normal.

Report them then. This excuse is getting old.
We can’t catch everyone because we can’t observe everyone at the same time. In the case of both of your bans tonight you were reported and I happened to be on to look into those reports.

aren’t you the same person who wanted to demote me as HOS because i was a plasmaman?

no plasmemes are cool

My biggest issue is all my ahelps get ignored, so I never do it

You have sent exactly one ahelp since coming back. They are forwarded to discord for admins to see.

A permaban for this when most humans are assholes to lizards and even worse to felinids seems silly to me

Did anyone follow the order and kill ppl?

No instead I got reports of a captain trying to get his crew executed for no reason. The crew then went mutiny on the captain.

This is a player that has caused a major problem once for every three hours of play and received a well deserved ban for their actions before. Upon returning the server, the player did not bother checking the rules and ignored a large red notification about the server having special rules on joining. Then player immediately breaks RP rules as a captain, doing something almost identical to one of their pre-permaban notes. I banned them from head roles until they can show they know how to follow rules so they have less influence on the rounds for now - And the very next round they killed a clown fresh out of cloning because the clown had pushed them into disposals.

This player is on their final warning before getting another full permanent ban from the server, and due to their actions in the following round and still failing to read the rules after this ban, I don’t plan on lifting this for some time unless another admin wants to overrule me. (which is the only reason this thread is still open)

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After reading through your notes Its seems pretty fair to keep the ban in place.
As ruko has stated, you did stuff so similar to previous notes that you fucked yourself here.
I vote to keep this ban in place. really thought you’d have learned not to do this kinda shit by now.

Number one, I don’t think Ruko has the privilege to vote on bans they have done, correct me if I’m wrong I don’t know how being an admin works here, second off, people kill cats and liggers all the time, I see no issue with racial genocide.

I also think the holocaust was the best thing to happen to humans since hentai.

Disclaimer: The holocaust was a tragedy, and was only better than Brexit but that isn’t saying much.

First off, people dont do that all the time
Second off, thats fucked up

Yeah I know, It’s a joke

unless…

Number one, I don’t think Ruko has the privilege to vote on bans they have done

I do actually. I proposed the system be adjusted so that ban appeals always be handled by an admin that isn’t the one that applied the ban, but current system in place is that the banning admin is usually given final say unless directly overridden for reasons relating to admin misconduct or a gross misunderstanding. That proposal has been lost in limbo at some point though.

I also do seek opinions from other admins, both before banning and after appeal, but I’m not allowed to share anything from admin channels/boards. It’s up to them to post here themselves if they have meaningful input.