Ziagfu and Griffithlol Player Report self-antag and metagrudge

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In-game report:

   CKEY: VictorPride

   Your Discord: VictorPride

   Offender’s CKEYs: Ziagfu and Griffithlol

   LRP or MRP server: LRP

   Offender’s In-Game Name: Elder God and Stinky Smell 

   Date (MM-DD-YYYY): 12-25-2019

   Round Number: 10648

   Rules Broken: 3 (self-antag), 6 (metagrudge)

   Incident Description:

For the previous round’s context: I cuffed Stinky Smell (Griffithlol) as they were accused of stealing my recently cloned patient’s items (I was paramedic), but instead I found items from multiple heads of staff. I asked them how they obtained it all, at which point they broke out of cuffs then attacked my colleague. Shortly after that I noticed their traitor items also, at which point I killed them because there was no security on station and they’re valid.

He and Ziagfu salt in OOC for a while, two examples of such messages:

OOC: Griffithlol: zane blake the doctor in medbay quick kill em

OOC: Ziagfu: I’m not gonna murder some people, just the ones who piss me off. Unless they’re targets of course.

In the reported following round, immediately on roundstart they start attacking me in the bar and kill me. They then clone me multiple times and kill me each time as well, even once I had ghosted . Pretty clear self-antag and metagrudge, as it was a nukies round.

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Ziagfu also salted in OOC because he was killed by someone lole
Why does this man’s OOC privileges exist

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Previous round you mentioned:

[2019-12-25 06:17:28.449] OOC: Ziagfu/(Elder God) “Zero Rain just self antagged so damn hard he killed” (Surgery (79, 104, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:20:18.127] OOC: Ziagfu/(Elder God) “Imagine self antagging because you want an implant” (Surgery (78, 97, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:20:40.167] OOC: Ziagfu/(Elder God) “I’ll shut up when people stop self antagging” (Surgery (78, 97, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:36:30.404] OOC: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) “zane blake is a traitor has esword” (Medbay Aft (86, 88, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:37:25.321] OOC: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) “zane blake the doctor in medbay quick kill em” (Cryogenics (84, 101, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:47:13.021] OOC: Ziagfu/(Elder God) “I’m not gonna murder some people, just the ones who piss me off. Unless they’re targets of course.” (Emergency Shuttle (214, 73, 1))

Attack logs from next round:

[2019-12-25 06:52:27.535] ATTACK: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) has shoved Ziagfu/(Elder God) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (136, 133, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:27.727] ATTACK: Ziagfu/(Elder God) has shoved VictorPride/(Zane Blake) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (136, 131, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:28.472] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has punched Ziagfu/(Elder God) (NEWHP: 99.3) (Bar (135, 132, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:28.861] ATTACK: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) has shoved Ziagfu/(Elder God) with into Stinky Smell (NEWHP: 99.3) (Bar (137, 132, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:29.904] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attempted to punch VictorPride/(Zane Blake) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (136, 133, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:30.593] ATTACK: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) has shoved Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar (135, 133, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:31.657] ATTACK: Nutskeet/(TKRG-) has thrown the flashlight (Technical Storage (106, 106, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:31.769] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has punched VictorPride/(Zane Blake) (NEWHP: 99) (Bar (136, 133, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:31.815] ATTACK: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) has kicks Ziagfu/(Elder God) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 99.3) (Bar (135, 133, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:31.816] ATTACK: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) has shoved Ziagfu/(Elder God) (NEWHP: 99.3) (Bar (135, 133, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:34.452] ATTACK: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) has grabbed Ziagfu/(Elder God) passive grab (NEWHP: 99.3) (Bar (137, 134, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:35.576] ATTACK: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) has grabbed Ziagfu/(Elder God) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 99.3) (Bar (137, 134, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:52:36.690] ATTACK: VictorPride/(Zane Blake) has tabled Ziagfu/(Elder God) onto the table (NEWHP: 99.3) (Bar (137, 134, 2))

For context, the round almost literally just started.

[2019-12-25 06:53:19.101] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked VictorPride/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 21) (Medbay Central (155, 108, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:53:20.057] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked VictorPride/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 13) (Medbay Central (155, 108, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:53:20.708] ATTACK: Ziagfu/(Elder God) has kicked VictorPride/(Zane Blake) (NEWHP: 10) (Medbay Central (153, 108, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:53:21.023] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked VictorPride/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 2) (Medbay Central (155, 108, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:53:21.519] ATTACK: Ziagfu/(Elder God) has kicked VictorPride/(Zane Blake) (NEWHP: -8.1) (Medbay Central (153, 108, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:53:21.802] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked VictorPride/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -16.1) (Medbay Central (155, 108, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:53:22.343] ATTACK: Ziagfu/(Elder God) has kicked VictorPride/(Zane Blake) (NEWHP: -17.6) (Medbay Central (153, 108, 2))

Gave you pills that literally gave you a heart attack after cloning you.

[2019-12-25 06:57:24.995] ATTACK: Ziagfu/(Elder God) has fed VictorPride/(Zane Blake) with /datum/reagent/toxin/initropidril (30u) (NEWHP: 71.1) (Genetics Lab (155, 114, 2))
[2019-12-25 06:58:34.944] ATTACK: Ziagfu/(Elder God) has curbstomped no key/(Zane Blake) (NEWHP: -136) (Genetics Lab (153, 113, 2))

Cloned you AGAIN

[2019-12-25 07:00:09.349] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has grabbed no key/(Zane Blake) passive grab (NEWHP: 71.1) (Genetics Lab (155, 114, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:10.446] ATTACK: Ziagfu/(Elder God) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/initropidril (25u)) from the initropidril bottle to [dropper] (Medbay Central (151, 110, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:10.446] ATTACK: Ziagfu/(Elder God) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/toxin/initropidril (24u)) from the initropidril bottle to [dropper] (Medbay Central (151, 110, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:12.127] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked no key/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 63.1) (Genetics Lab (154, 115, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:13.320] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked no key/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 57.1) (Genetics Lab (154, 115, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:14.199] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked no key/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 51.1) (Genetics Lab (154, 115, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:15.063] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked no key/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 43.1) (Genetics Lab (154, 115, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:15.887] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked no key/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 35.1) (Genetics Lab (154, 115, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:16.766] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked no key/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 27.1) (Genetics Lab (154, 115, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:17.690] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked no key/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 19.1) (Genetics Lab (154, 115, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:18.524] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked no key/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 11.1) (Genetics Lab (154, 115, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:19.470] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked no key/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 3.1) (Genetics Lab (154, 115, 2))
[2019-12-25 07:00:20.502] ATTACK: Griffithlol/(Stinky Smell) has attacked no key/(Zane Blake) with stool (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -4.9) (Genetics Lab (154, 115, 2))

[2019-12-25 06:51:25.437] griffithlol \ Stinky Smell \ Lawyer \ NONE \ ROUNDSTART
[2019-12-25 06:51:25.251] ziagfu \ Elder God \ Mime \ NONE \ ROUNDSTART

Pretty sure I’ve seen enough. They didn’t say a whole lot to you either. Neither were traitor.

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Let’s begin:
The ooc salt - "I’m not gonna murder some people, just the ones who piss me off. Unless they’re targets of course.” was a direct response after saying that from there on “From now on I’m going to be a murderboner” referring to as an antag. Why? Because even as an IAA, killing only another IAA, you still get valid hunters on you, and self antagonists on you as well. Valid hunters when you’re doing shit, self antagonists when you’re not even doing anything other than them going and trying to find a bunch of people to do experimental surgery on against their consent. Zero Rain was going around grabbing people to give them to the doctor with the long J-named person to do the surgery.

The fight - Whole thing started in bar, I was the mime, not an antag. Tried to steal whatever present he got under the tree because all I got was some bottle of Initropidril from the christmas tree. Never heard of it (Apparently it’s from the poison kit). He winds up fending me off, then fucking tables me. Doesn’t just shove me back and run, nah. He goes and tables me after Stinky there punches me, then he kicks me. Then the fight takes it’s turn onto Zane, we double team him like a couple of black guys on fresh white booty. Why, you ask? Because you can shove a mime or clown, but the moment you hit a mime or clown you gonna get clowned on.
-some key notes-
I didn’t start the punches on him until after he punched me.
After he was dead, Smelly ran off to gods knows where and I took the body directly to cloning.
His bag and other goods were checked for antag items before deciding he wasn’t antag and cloned him.
When he was cloned, he was fed standard feeding volumes of the bottle to see wtf it did. Turns out it was the heart attack shit.
He was attempted to be cloned immediately after that.
Literally said nothing because I’m the mime.
If I was metagrudging anyone, it would have been Zero.
Self Antag? Probably, though there was no intent to keep him dead after having seen he wasn’t antag. The bottles of reagents don’t say what they do on them, and I have yet to test the reagents other than Herapin as a chemist.
Metagrudge? Nah bitch, I’ll salt the fuck out of someone for self antag or needless valid hunt on an IAA who literally can’t, by the rules, fight back as they’d just get bwoinked for murderboning (Crazy right?). But hell, were you even mentioned? Nah bitch. Though when I am antag that can murderbone, I’m literally gonna kill everyone who annoys me in that round. Not gonna be the stealthy antag trying to complete objectives and only the objectives. (Except IAA, because again, FUCKING RULES THAT PREVENT RETALIATION, since you can’t murderbone and you can’t break more laws than getting the murder/theft jobs done). If you think I’d have a reason to metagrudge you, then you really don’t know shit about me. I don’t hold onto anger past a round, new round new objectives, new set of antags to watch out for or be. This isn’t a persistent world, this isn’t MRP where someone’s existence has a scrap of meaning. This is LRP. One round I’ll be pissed at someone for something they did. Next round? It’s not worth the energy required to give a damn, thus inefficient thoughts, thus fuck them unless they fuck with me.

So yeah, it wasn’t metagrudge. I don’t even metagrudge shit tier power abusing admins on Drymouth gulch back when it was Bad Deathclaw that decide to visit here and sling shit. Y’all ain’t worth that sort of spot in my mind.

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You were replying to and agreeing with Griffithlol and both complaining of self-antags whilst ick ocking, then both target me the next round. Looks instead like you were self-antagging because you didn’t see admins online and punishing any perceived self-antags in the round prior.

You got tabled because you both rushed me roundstart, after both salting during OOC for ages about self-antags and Griffithlol even calling out my location in real-time and trying to get others to kill me. Tabling is hardly an overescalation here when you were engaging in premeditated self-antag, started the fight and think it’s okay to escalate to murder.

I highly doubt in almost 400 hours playtime you haven’t seen the name Initropidril. Even the excuse of feeding to see what it does rings false since there’s no visible effects on newly cloned people for the majority of meds.

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what you did that previous round was 100% you taking advantage of the fact their was no admins. you left out the part were you spent several minutes attempting to force me into the surgery table so you and your colleague could hack my limbs off. I killed you for being a self-righteous cunt, and validing me after i tried to escape because you and the other doctor were going to practice surgery on me. You acting like a complete dick, and killed me for shit i literally picked off the ground. I simply payed you back for what you did to me, as you said in chat that i was welcome to try and fight you. So next round, i saw you and the mime going at it, and we kicked your ass for being the same self-antaging bitch as last round. No idea why you do the things you do. Thanks for lying to admins, and playing the victim. Ban i probably deserve for the ick in ock, which i did after realizing there was no admin to report him too. Next time, please dont play cop and validhunt just cause some dude thought i took his id(i didnt). Dude spent like at least 5 minutes “questioning me” even though the cmo was right there, and he never even attempted to contact sec(there was at least a captain). I had one traitor item, that i found at roundstart, and your colleague was the one who was trying to put a fucking knockout tank and straight jacket on me the whole time you were “questioning me”. I think a couple taps with a saw as i tried to escape were more than deserved in that scerniro, and i shoulda saved logs of the shit you and the other dude wanted to do to me. You guys literally started talking about surgery on me the second you put me in cuffs, even before searching my bag.

The sum of it was, he did something he wasnt supposed to do, and managed to find an excuse to valid me. The fact that he even pretends he was trying to do the right thing is bullshit, as he was going to let the other dude hack my limbs off before i managed to almost get away. If there was an admin, he would have likely at least forced him to res me, but i knew it was something he could argue away if i made a post on a forum. When i saw him trying to beat the mime up for whatever reason next round, wasnt metagrude so much as “i know this guys a cunt, hes probably self-antaging again”. who the fuck attacks a mime.

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Just so you both know this is not a ban appeal. Your punishments have been applied, the correct response now is a ban appeal. Feel free to link your responses in the appeals though

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oh so we get no opportunity to explain anything nice

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You and another person rushed him at around start and killed him for defending himself. The other person just so happens to have name dropped the person in OOC the previous round. You were also salting in OOC AGAIN. The two of you cloned him and killed him again. At best this is just grief at worst it’s metagrudging grief.

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Openly admitting to metagrudging. Epic.

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we did not rush him. i just went to the tree and saw him attacking the mime. i don’t think its metagrudge to remember someone ic name, and know they are an asshole.