not to mention the numerous people who admitted to metagrudging on forums and are fine
this is like the oj simpson case. its only a speculation he killed someone because of SOME evidence but not enough. meaning he didnt kill anyone
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now i whould like to be rightfully unbanned as its only speculation i metagrudged. with coincidence. thats it
didnt metagruge. no 100% proof i did
same person who im banned because of has done the same type of well technically , i have.
you know there’s an edit function right
you don’t need to make like 6 separate posts
onto the actual appeal ehh idk chief this does seem like a stinky situation
wheres the edit function…again there is no definitive proof i metagrudged.
got it thats epic
click the icon that looks like a pencil, that’s the edit button.
Rukos sleeping currently and he has been handling the whole round. There was a lot of self-antagging and meta. He’ll have more specific details on it tonight.
yeah but i want to be un banned. think of this as the oj simpson case. and again if your going to ban 4 people for meta grudgeing you whould need to do the entire server pop at that time
This was so obviously meta, to the point that you essentially admitted to it in the player report, then began furiously backpeddling once you realised you were about to be banned.
No. Keep this.
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based af. def was not meta. besides the victim doesnt care
and never admitted it. again your banning based on speculation
at the very least remove the perma ban
Added a poll that only staff can vote in to your ban appeal to simplify this a bit, but a few points I’d like to make.
You aren’t wrong, we have two rules that can ultimately only be bannable with an admission. Metagrudge and Metacomms. Neither of these are ever 100% no matter how much evidence we have until someone admits to it, it always could be coincidence. That said, between what you said in-game and in the thread I’m inclined to agree with Cae - You thought metagrudge was fine as antag, got told it wasn’t and started furiously pointing out just how much you never admitted to it thinking it would save you.
You never attacked anyone. Period. Including stings. Janitor died outside of your control/doing and you never did anything for the whole round except perpetuate a valid-hunt against someone over a grudge.
I added a poll so other @GameAdmin can look at the evidence and decide for themselves if what is present is sufficient enough proof, or they can vote against if they think it isn’t enough proof or if they think admission is required for proof. As it stands I’m not overturning this unless the poll overturns it or a Head Admin invokes their ability to overturn my decision because I personally see more than enough evidence.
It seems pretty obvious to me that this was a metagrudge. Your early responses in the player report sum it up for me.
it was funny af. still i tecnically didnt metagrudge since i was antag. if you kill 20 people with an axe. no shit the entire servers gonna metagruge
This line which was one of your first defenses was using a technicality that you thought was true, namely that antags are unable to metagrudge. Saying that by technicality you are innocent, means that by intent and circumstance without the technicality you did. And the technicality is not true, meaning its pretty much just admitting to metagrudge.
no proof i actually metagrudged just a ss of me saying i was gonna. i was still antag and for all you know you could have been my target
He wasn’t. So this is the opposite of a helpful defense.
i didnt metagrudge just said i was going to. someone killing him could have given me the opprotinity to extract his geomes
You could have used your stealth sting, or you could have sought gnomes from anyone else. If you only target one person, and have no IC cause, and you also attack no one else, this is not an arguement.
imagine getting salty people where messing with you in lrp after murderboning 20 people. and for the record i did not metagrudge. just said i was going to. never did anything other then trying to get server to kill you so i could extract your genes
Same thing, but to drive it home. There was no value in their genes specifically over anyone else. Shapeshifting into them would be suicide by your own understanding of the round and station intentions, they were not a specific target, and collecting literally anyone elses genes would have been safer and much more discreet than chasing the guy everyone was trying to lynch.
I don’t care if there is not a 100% confirmed confession or not. We are required to prove through logs and information we have. If everyone who looks at the situation clearly sees that it is metagrudge, and your whole arguement is based off some weird paper thin veil of “maybe it was a coincidence” then it is enough.
Recommend the appeal be denied.
at least remove the perma part. this draws the line so close to being allowed. valid hunting makes you valid IC. I drawed the line between metagruging and what is allowed. everything i did is allowed in the game. the victim even admitted to not really caring. I have killed entire round pops before. In all honestly I just wanted an excuse to kill anyone because i was antag.
and the it was funny af was responding to the person i was repliying to about filling a player report on himself
even funnier. Ruko sent an ert after being pressured by dead chat in the round the murderbone happend. he had a role play reason but it was pretty obvious it was because of the spamming in deadchat.
you are giving me a permaban based on a very thin line between bannable and unbanable. even with my record the metagrudge was a very minor play in the round to me
I don’t know where this notion started or came from. I told you I was at work still when the metagrudge happened - not only did I not send the ERT, but I couldn’t even have had access to my computer when it was sent.