Wilchen banned by [sergeikoralev]

CKEY:
Wilchen
Admin’s CKEY:
sergeikoralev
Ban Type:
jobban
Ban Length:
permanent
Ban Date (YYYY/MM/DD/):
2022-02-18
Round ID:
36183
Ban Reason:
As a security officer, harrassed various members of command staff for all access, repeatedly broke into other departments, and refused lawful orders by relevant heads of staff to leave that deparment, then later attempted to arrest that department head while being specifically instructed not to by the HOS. Got AA and then PDAd the entire station “I got all access by bugging heads about it therefore I am satisfied and going to cryo now.” You’ve had a lot of trouble in the past as security and command. Disconnected before I was able to bwoink them.Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 7.5, Rule 7.6
Appeal Reason:

harrassed various members of command staff for all access, repeatedly broke into other departments

This is blatant and false representation of what happened, I highly doubt the banning admin looked into the logs. Therefore I want sergei to point out which members of command staff were “harassed” (specifically harassed, as is written in the ban reason) for all access and which departaments (plurar) were repeatedly broken into.

refused lawful orders by relevant heads of staff to leave that deparment

Again plural form was used here which is a misrepresentation of what happened, please point of which heads (plural) of staff ordered me to leave the departament.

then later attempted to arrest that department head while being specifically instructed not to by the HOS

we’re back to singular here?

I arrested them specifically because they interrupted (grabbed them and dragged them off) a arrest made on a scientist.

Got AA

Wasn’t AA go check the logs

PDAd the entire station “I got all access by bugging heads about it therefore I am satisfied and going to cryo now.”

That’s bannable now?
I’d like to know under what rule. And if its not bannable then what is the relevancy of this?

Rule 2, Rule 3, Rule 7.5, Rule 7.6

Please explain how these rules were broken instead of citing them, I’m sure that’s a reasonable request and shouldn’t be a problem right?

Additional Information:
Don’t reply with two sentences and close the appeal without giving me a chance to refute what you’ve said.

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It doesn’t matter, you have to listen to department head, otherwise its insubordination

If it wasn’t AA, then why did you tell crew it was?

Also that is very bad RP.

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That’s called an ic issue

Unless you’re advocating for banning every assistant that refuses orders since that’s also insubordination.

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Insubordination leads to self-antag, its an IC issue if department head is genuinely in the wrong and forces you to fuck something up, it isnt an IC issue when you deliberately disobey for no particular reason other than “muh AA”

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You didn’t read anything I wrote did you?

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I’ll review this once all formatting and ban information are correct.

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Sure thing pal, i’ve corrected the obvious mistakes. (sorry for messing up your name but english is my second language)

Be sure to let me know if anything else is wrong.

PDA and Say Logs:

[2022-02-18 15:26:19.587] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “hop to hopline” (Central Primary Hallway (135, 127, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:26:22.662] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “hop to hopline” (Central Primary Hallway (135, 127, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:27:18.491] PDA: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) (PDA: security PDA to Everyone) “HoP to hopline” (Central Primary Hallway (135, 127, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:28:40.137] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “all access” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:28:41.374] SAY: [Head of Personnel] “Hello there” ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:28:44.052] SAY: [Head of Personnel] “Absolutley no” ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:28:47.718] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “i’m an officer” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:28:50.304] SAY: [Head of Personnel] “so?” ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:03.105] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I need to enforce the law” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:08.245] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “the law” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:15.540] SAY: [Head of Personnel] “Noone getting all acces outside of wartime situations” ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:19.640] EMOTE: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) spins handcuffs in her finger (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:29.455] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “we’re having a war” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:30.987] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “right now” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:32.584] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “war on drugs” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:39.192] EMOTE: [Head of Personnel] sighs ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:51.223] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “you could say” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:54.115] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “we’re nyaughty” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:29:57.826] SAY: [Head of Personnel] “No ma’am, if you’re realy serious go harras the captain about this” ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:30:04.124] SAY: [Head of Personnel] “i dont have the authoprity” ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:30:07.715] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “okay” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:30:11.372] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “access to most departaments” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:30:38.135] SAY: [Head of Personnel] “i’ll have to ask evry head of department individualy, please just go talk to the captain?” ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:30:40.793] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “meowdy pawndew” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:30:48.295] SAY: [Head of Personnel] “right, NEXT” ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:05.531] SAY: [Head of Personnel] “Hello chap” ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:07.048] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “okay” (Central Primary Hallway (135, 112, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:09.954] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “access quest it is” (Central Primary Hallway (135, 112, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:16.691] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “MARINA” (Research Division (140, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:18.753] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “RD TO SCIENCE” (Research Division (140, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:22.091] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “RD TO SCIENCE!!” (Research Division (140, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:30.001] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “hi sweetie” (Research Division (140, 96, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:30.425] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “What?” (Research Division (140, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:31.829] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I need some” (Research Division (140, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:33.607] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “Access” (Research Division (140, 94, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:40.705] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “No” (Research Division (139, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:41.664] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Why?” (Research Division (139, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:42.678] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “What?” (Research Division (139, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:46.138] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “And I’m busy right now” (Research Division (137, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:50.039] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “i’m gonna” (Research Division (138, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:50.186] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Get out” (Research Division (136, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:31:52.471] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “intimidate you” (Research Division (138, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:32:16.207] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “well I have access here” (Medbay Central (169, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:32:35.725] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “quartermaster to cargo” (Fore Primary Hallway (164, 154, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:32:39.216] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “quartermaster to cargo” (Fore Primary Hallway (164, 154, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:32:45.130] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I need some access” (Fore Primary Hallway (163, 156, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:32:52.144] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “to cargo” (Fore Primary Hallway (163, 156, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:32:59.646] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “HoP said I need to ask QM” (Fore Primary Hallway (163, 156, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:33:07.343] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “damn” (Fore Primary Hallway (163, 156, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:33:21.984] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “need cargo” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:33:23.363] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “access” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:33:25.408] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “there’s no QM” (Central Primary Hallway (137, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:33:55.238] SAY: [Head of Personnel] “Leave my boys in peace though, cargo is my domain, not securitys” ([Head of Personnel]'s Office (139, 129, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:34:14.919] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “ce to engineering” (Port Primary Hallway (110, 137, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:34:17.349] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “ce to engineering” (Port Primary Hallway (110, 137, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:34:32.770] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “CE” (Engineering Foyer (95, 138, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:34:36.564] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I need access” (Engineering Foyer (94, 139, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:34:39.980] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “i’m on a access quest” (Engineering Foyer (94, 139, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:34:43.944] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “quest for access” (Engineering Foyer (94, 139, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:34:51.237] SAY: [Captain] “sure” (Shared Engineering Storage (91, 141, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:03.093] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “RD to science” (Research Division (140, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:21.680] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “marina” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:25.036] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I’m on access quest” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:28.719] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I need access” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:33.009] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Ask the HoP” (Research and Development (148, 94, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:37.471] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “HoP said to ask you” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:44.785] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “we have to ask you for the quest” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:45.846] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Why do you want science access?” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:49.419] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “its for a quest” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:51.722] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “access quest” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:36:55.060] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “No” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:37:03.699] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “marina please stop stonewalling me” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:37:07.461] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “i’m on a quest” (Research Division (145, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:37:27.592] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “green” (Aft Primary Hallway (151, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:38:10.655] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “How did you get in?” (Xenobiology Lab (124, 94, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:38:14.148] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “Door was open” (Xenobiology Lab (123, 94, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:38:30.414] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Are you serious” (Research Division (130, 96, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:38:36.131] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “yeah” (Research Division (130, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:38:44.990] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Holy heavens” (Research Division (130, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:38:50.484] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “it didn’t use to be like that” (Research Division (130, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:38:51.704] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Well then you have no need to even ask me for access” (Research Division (130, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:38:53.661] EMOTE: [Research Director (Marina)] sighs (Research Division (130, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:39:09.445] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “its for quest marina” (Research Division (141, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:39:34.927] WHISPER: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “what if we stun her and drag her to RD office” (Research Division (141, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:40:29.587] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “usb cable” (Research and Development (145, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:45:29.370] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “cap” (Central Primary Hallway (169, 141, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:45:34.564] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I need science access” (Central Primary Hallway (169, 141, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:45:44.248] SAY: Tamumus/(Aden Finlay) “I’ll ask the RD if she mind” (Bridge (167, 140, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:45:55.450] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “i bet she won’t” (Central Primary Hallway (169, 140, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:45:57.342] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “mind” (Central Primary Hallway (169, 140, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:45:58.228] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “at all” (Central Primary Hallway (169, 140, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:46:06.304] SAY: Tamumus/(Aden Finlay) “Marina, Officer Sherrie Williams wants SCI access, you mind?” (Bridge (166, 140, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:46:41.760] SAY: Tamumus/(Aden Finlay) “RD isn’t answering, Sherrie” (Bridge (166, 140, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:46:50.016] SAY: Tamumus/(Aden Finlay) “Ask her directly, she’s in robo” (Bridge (166, 140, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:47:32.457] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “marina” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:47:33.989] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “hello” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:47:37.587] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “marina my beloved” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:47:45.093] WHISPER: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “but not as much as miriam” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:47:48.376] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “marina!” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:47:58.291] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “hello” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:00.240] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “ma’am” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:03.111] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “can I trouble you” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:03.113] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Doorknob law two don’t let Sherrie into science” (Research and Development (148, 94, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:07.589] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “with asking for a little access” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:09.124] EMOTE: [Research Director (Marina)] sighs (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:13.859] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Surely” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:17.928] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “just a bit” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:20.512] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “You have a science security officer” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:24.490] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “a nibble” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:32.567] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “a taste” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:33.606] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “No” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:35.337] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “No access” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:36.588] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Stop it” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:39.893] EMOTE: [Research Director (Marina)] glares (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:42.465] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “do we have a science officer” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:44.454] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Blessed” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:46.324] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I don’t think we do” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:48:51.137] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “ms. marina is unprotected” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:49:02.908] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “therefore she should give officers access to science” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:49:16.464] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “its true!” (Research Division (147, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:49:21.305] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “You can run into science anyway” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:49:54.777] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I wanted to locker her” (Research Division (131, 94, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:50:43.615] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “hmmm” (Research Division (135, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:50:44.257] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “yes” (Research Division (135, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:50:44.779] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Your own security team are breaking into science, HoS” (Research and Development (148, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:50:57.340] SAY: [Head of Security] “let me out for a bit” (Robotics Lab (147, 75, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:51:04.804] SAY: [Head of Security] “in” (Robotics Lab (144, 76, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:51:06.682] SAY: [Head of Security] “officers are” (Robotics Lab (144, 76, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:51:13.997] SAY: [Head of Security] “what the fuck are you doing” (Research Division (140, 89, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:51:20.221] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “we’re on a access quest” (Research Division (141, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:51:46.877] SAY: [Head of Security] “jesus fucking christ” (Research Division (140, 89, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:51:51.971] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “not true” (Research Division (141, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:51:54.925] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “use that door” (Research Division (141, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:51:55.479] SAY: [Head of Security] “where do they hire officers, the “special” school?” (Research Division (140, 89, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:52:12.430] OOC: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) (LOOC) “im laughing so hard rn” (Research Division (141, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:52:34.016] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “marina” (Research Division (141, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:52:36.789] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “would it be too corny” (Research Division (141, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:52:38.631] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “if I said” (Research Division (141, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:52:41.625] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “stop resisting” (Research Division (141, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:52:43.914] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Yes” (Research and Development (148, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:53:26.730] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “assault” (Research and Development (147, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:53:27.826] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “assault” (Research and Development (148, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:53:48.609] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “need backup at RND” (Research and Development (149, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:53:54.011] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “need backup at science” (Research and Development (149, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:02.591] SAY: [Head of Security] “for breaking into science?” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:18.163] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “These officers” (Research and Development (145, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:20.621] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Do not want to leave” (Research and Development (145, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:25.297] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “They’re pests” (Research and Development (145, 92, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:28.642] SAY: [Head of Security] “marina” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:29.143] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “he pushed the brig phys” (Research and Development (144, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:31.131] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “he’s going in” (Research and Development (144, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:35.078] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “unless we can make a little deal” (Research and Development (144, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:37.584] SAY: [Head of Security] “they broke into science right” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:41.124] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Yes” (Research and Development (148, 92, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:43.277] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I assume you know what i’m about to ask for” (Research and Development (144, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:45.454] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “They made it in further” (Research and Development (148, 94, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:54.018] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “well Marina?” (Research and Development (144, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:54:54.714] SAY: [Head of Security] “Ill deal with them when my surgery is finished” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:55:01.466] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Finally” (Research and Development (148, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:55:13.056] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “no he doesn’t…” (Research and Development (144, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:55:18.734] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “true” (Research and Development (144, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:55:21.667] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “He used to be an assistant” (Research and Development (145, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:55:30.902] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Although” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:55:32.220] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “he pushed over the brig physician” (Research and Development (144, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:55:34.644] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “he’s getting booked” (Research and Development (144, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:55:36.383] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “unless…” (Research and Development (144, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:55:37.524] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Get an actual science jumpsuit” (Research and Development (147, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:55:43.478] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “unless you give us access” (Research and Development (145, 89, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:56:25.552] SAY: [Head of Security] “thats tresspass and contraband though” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:56:36.915] SAY: [Head of Security] “too bad 2 of my officers are busy breaking into science” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:57:07.566] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “None of those” (Research Division (131, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:57:09.486] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Were contraband” (Research Division (131, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:57:36.569] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “I am going to” (Research Division (131, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:57:42.823] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Because they’ve detained my scientist for no reason” (Research Division (131, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:57:48.263] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “What am I supposed to do? Call security?” (Research Division (131, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:57:50.582] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Imbecile” (Research Division (131, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:57:54.510] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “he broke the law” (Security Post - Research Division (134, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:57:54.639] SAY: [Head of Security] “why” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:58:10.255] SAY: [Head of Security] “when my surgery is done I am going to ram a baton up your asses” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:58:50.996] SAY: [Head of Security] “thanks” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:58:54.052] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “borg is not letting us arrest RD” (Xenobiology Lab (124, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:58:57.675] SAY: [Head of Security] “good” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:58:58.136] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “check AI laws” (Xenobiology Lab (124, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:59:04.700] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “They’re arresting my scientists for no reason” (Research and Development (144, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:59:08.498] SAY: [Head of Security] “WHY ARE YOU ARRESTING THE RD” (Robotics Lab (148, 72, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:59:09.023] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “And now they’re trying to arrest me” (Research and Development (143, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:59:39.465] EMOTE: [Research Director (Marina)] screams (Research Division (130, 92, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:59:45.749] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “RD is trying to free a prisoner” (Port Maintenance (129, 105, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:59:48.286] SAY: [Head of Security] “I AM LITERALLY TELLING THEM NOT TO” (Robotics Lab (147, 78, 2))
[2022-02-18 15:59:52.687] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “Ryan Hussain” (Port Maintenance (129, 105, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:00:08.405] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “A WRONGFUL ARREST” (Research Division (124, 88, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:00:10.124] SAY: [Head of Security] “argoni, sherrie” (Robotics Lab (147, 80, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:00:17.458] SAY: [Head of Security] “why are you fucking arrested the RD” (Robotics Lab (147, 80, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:00:25.059] SAY: [Head of Security] “AI, dont let them arrest the RD” (Robotics Lab (147, 80, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:00:28.092] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “RD is trying to disrupt a arrest” (Port Maintenance (129, 105, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:00:31.789] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “and free a prisoner” (Port Maintenance (129, 105, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:00:43.443] SAY: [Head of Security] “you started this shit by breaking into science” (Robotics Lab (147, 80, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:00:54.337] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “we didn’t break into science” (Port Maintenance (131, 104, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:01:00.998] SAY: [Head of Security] “I literally saw you doing it” (Robotics Lab (147, 80, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:01:19.116] SAY: [Head of Security] “you cant give yourself permission” (Robotics Lab (147, 80, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:01:43.250] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Free flashes” (Research Division (140, 75, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:01:43.254] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “we literally did nothing wrong” (Research Division (139, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:01:57.767] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Did they take your-” (Research Division (130, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:05.284] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “we arrested and jailed him” (Security Post - Research Division (134, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:08.270] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “this is a cell” (Security Post - Research Division (134, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:11.041] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “For no reason” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:15.931] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “What crime did he commit?” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:17.853] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Nothing” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:19.157] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “he pushed over a brig phys” (Security Post - Research Division (134, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:23.868] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “That’s not a crime” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:24.622] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “its on his crime record” (Security Post - Research Division (134, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:29.945] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “you could’ve asked” (Security Post - Research Division (134, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:32.153] SAY: [Head of Security] “fucking children” (Research Division (130, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:33.421] SAY: [Head of Security] “all of you” (Research Division (130, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:34.100] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “If it’s a crime then” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:35.558] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “why we arrested him” (Security Post - Research Division (134, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:38.094] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Go on” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:41.903] EMOTE: [Research Director (Marina)] sighs (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:50.403] SAY: [Head of Security] “you are not arresting the RD.” (Research Division (130, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:55.586] SAY: [Head of Security] “especially not you, brig phys.” (Research Division (130, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:56.605] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “HoS” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:57.648] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “are you” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:02:59.274] SAY: [Head of Security] “not being a officer and all that.” (Research Division (130, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:01.315] SAY: [Head of Security] “fucking cunt.” (Research Division (130, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:01.672] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “interferring with an arrest” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:10.420] SAY: [Head of Security] “you are doing a unjustified arrest.” (Research Division (130, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:15.242] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “it was justified” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:17.533] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I cited the law” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:30.637] SAY: [Head of Security] “jackshit was done past you being reported breaking into science.” (Research Division (130, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:34.918] SAY: [Head of Security] “from what I have seen, that was true.” (Research Division (130, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:42.517] SAY: [Head of Security] “if something else happened, its your failure to report it.” (Research Division (130, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:42.821] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I never broke in” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:46.786] SAY: [Head of Security] “you will not be arresting the RD.” (Research Division (130, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:50.999] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “One of you hacked in” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:03:56.287] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “I didn’t see anything” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:01.592] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “So it was Miriam” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:02.726] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “could’ve been anyone opening the door” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:13.790] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “A door gets hacked open” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:14.911] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “yeah the doors were open” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:19.674] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “And you two walk in” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:21.810] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “there’s no proof of hacking” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:26.246] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “I could hear it” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:27.305] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “anyway marina” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:27.736] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Very clearly” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:30.353] SAY: [Head of Security] “Brig phys, if you actively participate in apprehension or arrest again, you will be demoted.” (Research Division (130, 99, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:33.231] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “can I have access to science” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:36.504] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “NO” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:38.573] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “After all that” (Research Division (131, 98, 2))

A bomb detonates.

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Logs continued

[2022-02-18 16:04:40.603] EMOTE: [Research Director (Marina)] seizes up and falls limp, her eyes dead and lifeless (Research Division (131, 96, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:40.606] GAME: [Research Director (Marina)] has died (BRUTE: 160.8, BURN: 60.7, TOX: 0, OXY: 0, CLONE: 0) (Research Division (131, 96, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:04:58.640] EMOTE: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) screams (Security Post - Research Division (132, 96, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:05:01.598] WHISPER: [Head of Security] “my bag, meds” (Research Division (127, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:05:19.462] WHISPER: [Head of Security] “my bag, it has a medkit” (Research Division (127, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:05:23.817] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “marina…” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:05:24.493] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “why” (Security Post - Research Division (133, 95, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:05:47.583] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “lets evac” (Security Post - Research Division (135, 94, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:06:27.988] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “i’m deaf” (Medbay Central (182, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:06:33.213] SAY: [Head of Security] “I am deaf” (Research Division (138, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:06:48.632] SAY: [Head of Security] “no need to remove the turtleneck” (Research Division (138, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:06:49.765] SAY: [Head of Security] “by the way” (Research Division (138, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:06:57.899] EMOTE: [Chief Medical Officer] gives a thups up (Research Division (139, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:07:05.284] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “yeah” (Medbay Central (182, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:07:17.086] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “i’m gonna find her leg” (Medbay Central (182, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:07:19.155] SAY: [Head of Security] “i love deafness” (Research Division (139, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:07:38.996] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “looking for a leg” (Research Division (130, 97, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:08:22.342] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “robo to robotics” (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:08:26.066] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “need a new leg for RD” (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:08:31.827] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “and arm” (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:08:35.020] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “tright arm left leg” (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:08:40.596] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “hi?” (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:08:50.863] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Where is-” (Medbay Central (181, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:08:53.627] EMOTE: [Research Director (Marina)] screams (Medbay Central (181, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:05.019] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “BUT MY LIMBS” (Medbay Central (181, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:34.655] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “new limbs” (Medbay Central (182, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:34.658] EMOTE: [Research Director (Marina)] gasps (Medbay Central (181, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:35.658] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Oh my” (Medbay Central (181, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:36.965] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “Thank-” (Medbay Central (181, 93, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:44.360] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “You seriously couldn’t find my old limbs?” (Medbay Central (182, 92, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:47.537] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “no” (Medbay Central (182, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:50.177] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “literally missing” (Medbay Central (182, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:53.835] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “someone cleaned it up” (Medbay Central (182, 91, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:54.113] EMOTE: [Research Director (Marina)] sighs (Medbay Central (183, 89, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:09:58.701] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “sorry” (Medbay Central (182, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:10:08.037] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “MY ARM” (Medbay Central (183, 89, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:10:20.660] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “anyway” (Medbay Central (182, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:10:24.093] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “as you can see” (Medbay Central (182, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:10:36.543] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “security having access to science” (Medbay Central (182, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:10:39.462] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “is very helpful” (Medbay Central (182, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:10:40.799] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “YES FINE I’LL GIVE YOU THE SCIENCE ACCESS” (Medbay Central (183, 89, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:10:42.881] SAY: [Research Director (Marina)] “BASIC ACCESS” (Medbay Central (183, 89, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:10:47.825] SAY: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) “W” (Medbay Central (181, 90, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:12:29.741] PDA: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) (PDA: security PDA to Everyone) “I got all access by bugging heads about it therefore I am satisfied and going to cryo now.” (Cryopod Room (203, 116, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:12:34.655] ADMIN: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) entered a stasis pod.
[2022-02-18 16:13:07.703] ACCESS: Mob Login: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2022-02-18 16:13:07.741] GAME: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) Client Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams) has taken ownership of mob Sherrie Williams(/mob/dead/observer) (Cryopod Room (202, 116, 2))
[2022-02-18 16:15:30.787] ACCESS: Logout: Wilchen/(Sherrie Williams)

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Permit me to overview what is above: Wilchen asking literally every head except the CMO for all access, or access to their department. Then asked the RD at least 4 times for access, being told no on every occasion, in the process breaking Space Law themselves by trespass, culminating in them finally getting the okay for science access, then almost immediately cryoing after. As far as I can tell, all this without doing their actual job.

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Captain, Head of Personnel, and Research Director.

HOS and RD. Your boss, and the guy who tells security officers who is trespassing.

You only attempted to arrest the RD. The HOS told you not to, thus singular.

You said it was AA, You destroyed your body prior to the completion of my objective, and I’m not going to parse access logs when you very clearly stated in your parting message: “I got all access by bugging heads about it”

@GameAdmin does anyone feel that this ban is somehow misrepresenting the events of the round?

Edit: As for Rules applicability

2: No powergaming.
Handing out AA to sec officers falls under this. Sec officers are given specific starting access to work with for a reason.

3: Do your job
You didn’t. You harassed heads of staff all round rather than actually work.

7.5: Don’t be a dick.
If she tells you no, that means no. Twice might be one thing, but you went above and beyond the level where it just becomes dickish.

7.6: Use Common Sense
If they tell you no, that means no, not come back and ask and whine until you get what you want.

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After reading this entire exchange. And all the logs, I cannot give any support beyond sustaining this ban. Clearly no real effort was put into Roleplay. Self-antaggign by breaking the law as a sec officer. Disobeying your Head of Security and multiple other heads.

Maybe its time to retire security.

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As the RD in this report, I felt like this was more of an IC issue than anything, and something that could have been solved if the HoS was just a bit stricter, or maybe a CC official inspected security and fired them (although they did cryo, so no opportunity for that).

I do wish IC punishments were handed out more considering my interaction with Sherrie in this round warranted it, but I wouldn’t say it outright ruined the round for me, if anything I found the whole ordeal rather funny, and it added something outside of the hour and a half long mundanity that most rounds are consisted of. They did also ultimately help out when I was bombed later in the round.

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I asked ce or captain (logs show captain but they had CE suit on as far as I remember) for engineering access and he didn’t have problem with it.
I asked HoP for cargo access and he just asked me not to harass any cargo crew
I feel like I only really harassed Marina in this situation.

Did you actually speak to any of the people you mentioned I “harassed” about it?

If I asked each individual head how could it be AA, only hop or captain can give out access to command. You have it clear on record that I only asked for access to specific departaments (main doors), if anything was given to me beyond that its outside of my knowledge.

Therefore it could not be “AA”, me saying it was, was just simply boasting about it before cryo.

I don’t believe seeking additional access is powergaming, unless you want to make a policy about it right here.

I chose to ignore HoS due to RD disrupting a lawful arrest and misrepresenting it on radio, therefore HoS’s judgement was misguided.

Ultimately RD was just detained and released and the scientist jailed for five-ten minutes. (If my memory serves right)
The same scientist was also responsible for bombing HoS and Marina.

I wouldn’t do it to Marina if I didn’t know them, me and them have a lot of interactions where I tease and annoy her at times, which is partly my explaination for insistence here.

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In my personal opinion, the actions displayed in this thread would warrant a server ban of no more than one week and/or a job ban of no more than one month. I do not believe that the content of these logs warrants a permanent job ban.

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It was both a weekban from the game and permanent ban from all command and security.

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Over half of your extensive note history is shitsec behavior. Other admins have agreed the ban was not placed in error. The security ban will remain in place as per permanent ban policy.