CKEY: joelogbybolb
Offender’s CKEY:
Offender’s In-Game Name: Kur-Reet
Server (Sage or Acacia):
Date (MM-DD-YYYY): 05 - 21 - 2023
Round Number: 44110
Rules Broken: Do not validhunt
Incident Description: started stabbing a holopara with a laser scalpel in shuttle instead of running, caused death of host
Weren’t you alive in the round end report?
hardcrit, passed out
Alright, let’s see
captainwiesel \ Kur-Reet \ Medical Doctor \ NONE \ ROUNDSTART
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked Joelogbybolb/(Ego) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 4.5) (STAM: 0) (Emergency Shuttle (77, 166, 9))
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked UnitystationChad/(The Owl) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 1e+031) (Emergency Shuttle (77, 166, 9))
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked UnitystationChad/(The Owl) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 1e+031) (Emergency Shuttle (76, 166, 9))
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked UnitystationChad/(The Owl) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 1e+031) (Emergency Shuttle (76, 165, 9))
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked UnitystationChad/(The Owl) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 1e+031) (Emergency Shuttle (76, 165, 9))
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked Tinylittletrash/(Squishy) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -15.1) (STAM: 0) (Emergency Shuttle (76, 166, 9))
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked UnitystationChad/(The Owl) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 1e+031) (Emergency Shuttle (77, 168, 9))
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked UnitystationChad/(The Owl) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 1e+031) (Emergency Shuttle (77, 168, 9))
ATTACK: UnitystationChad/(The Owl) has attacked Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) (NEWHP: 83.9) (STAM: 0) (Emergency Shuttle (77, 168, 9))
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked UnitystationChad/(The Owl) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 1e+031) (Emergency Shuttle (77, 167, 9))
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked 1jovemtr00/(Yoshiro Amakusa) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 43) (STAM: 0) (Emergency Shuttle (77, 167, 9))
ATTACK: Captain_Wiesel/(Kur-Reet) has attacked UnitystationChad/(The Owl) with laser scalpel (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 1e+031) (Emergency Shuttle (77, 167, 9))
Did not become an antagonist at any point during the round
On the shuttle were also present
tapczan \ John Wilson \ Security Officer
1jovemtr00 \ Yoshiro Amakusa \ Detective
Gains \ Ceres DU \ Warden \ NONE
The secoff and the Detective were active, the Warden died in action.
So, this does seem like a pretty clear case of validhunting, @Captain_Wiesel mind explaining yourself?
Small note; shuttle was in chaos, main area was breached and the doors to the shuttle storage were welded shut.
There were bananas everywhere and there were about 5? people and 3 patients in the medical area.
I believe the holopara/host were attacking their target in the cluster of people.
From the wiki on the subject of Valids and Validhunting. For reference on this subject.
Valid/Validhunting
Adjective: Someone who can be killed per the Rules, usually on grounds of being a loud traitor.
Verb: The act of deliberately seeking out and/or killing a valid individual. An inherently controversial subject.
Rule 3
.1 Normal crewmembers are not experienced soldiers. You should generally call for help, rather than intervening directly.
- This means no valid-hunting.
- You should generally attempt to flee from combat or dangerous situations.
- You can be involved in minor physical altercations between crewmembers that result from roleplay
- Security are always permitted to charge into danger, but should not be carrying items outside of the scope of their job the same as other crew.
- Heads of staff are permitted to defend their own department and subordinates, but should not be patrolling the station for threats unless there is no security.
First for the rule about validhunting … " * You should generally attempt to flee from combat or dangerous situations."
On the basic shuttle … there is not mutch space to “flee at”
And aside … yes yes low point but still… as for own expierance from saw / feeled it myself… traitor or even holoparas getting many times zerged by the people if they visitly do traitores things…
and to be fair, how everything in detail went down … no clue… cuz it was for myself just a minior thing not to be remeber …
Maybe the holopara attacked someone or else … no clue…
Problem is, you weren’t being attacked, as saylogs proved. You pulled out your laser scalpel and started stabbing the holopara, which isn’t a very natural reaction for soemone who just saw a spirit being start shooting at people.
Just because you saw a rule break it doesn’t mean it’s okay to repeat it. You didn’t try to express panic or run away, you just pulled out your budget e-dagger and started slashing away.
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