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efemu Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one:
all Which server did the ban happen on?
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9999-01-01 12:00 Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY):
2021-06-03 18:29 Round ID:
30229 Ban Reason:
Perma until appeal. Welderbombing as a pacifist, actively hostile in ticket. auth:bloons3 Appeal Reason:
Already explained it in conversation with him, but apparently telling him ones to fuck off with the accusations is considered “actively hostile”.
First welderbomb happened in sec. I was a brig phys and gathered everything for healing humans and robos in my office, including toolkit, coils and fuel tank. Antag with holopara attacked and critted hos. While he was busy with others i dragged hos into my office and tried to heal him. Antag broke in - i welderbombed myself. Antag was dragged away almost in crit by holopara. Hos got dragged by borg to shuttle later and i was cloned.
When i was cloned i was attacked by same antag with an axe. Ran away and got another fuel tank just in case. Made it to a shuttle. Suddenly Xeno Queen along with 3-4 xenos teleported to it. I welderbombed her which got her stunned and killed. Hull wasn’t breached, barely anyone got hurt.
As efemu said aparently pacifist means you can’t do anything - just drop on the floor and die. I disagree. That’s all.
You’re trying to bypass being a pacifist to attack people.
“In case I need to attack someone again, I will prepare a bomb to harm them, as someone who doesn’t believe in using harm”
If you’re playing pacifist, you’re not supposed to be attacking or harming other people. As a medic, you have non-harmful ways to detain people and stop them.
Okay. Where could’ve i fled to from a shuttle with just teleported queen and 3-4 xenos or from my office in which antag with holopara was breaking in to kill me and hos?
And both times i didn’t actively sought the conflict - it came to me.
Pacifism is not about allowing everyone to beat your ass and letting everyone around you to get hurt by your inaction. I choose not to harm anything normally, but in dire situations - i should be able to do something instead of just sitting there watching - i can just “play” spectator then.
N…No… It’s not. But they firmly believe in handling conflicts in entirely nonviolent ways. Again, that’s a major part of the belief and it’s also a major part of that trait. It’s a limitation for a reason.
That’s what we’re discussing here, no? If you stay firmly on the stance that pacifists must just sit around and patiently wait to be dismembered - then there is nothing to talk about. Keep me banned and say that pacifist can’t retaliate in any way in any circumstances and must just sit and wait their doom.
Look, this isnt people saying pacifists cant perform self defence, its them saying that a pacifist by definition is against inflicting pain, Just take a shorter ban and remove pacifism from your traits, Or secure a stun baton. You keep trying to put words into peoples mouth here.