The Secret Slav banned by Lagomorphica

CKEY: The Secret Slav

Admin’s CKEY: Lagomorphica

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Both

Ban Type: Server

Ban Length: Infinity

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2020-03-28 10:19

Round ID: 13947

Ban Reason: Multikey of The Secret Slav. Numerous details such as IP line up perfectly, and this is the only known alt of Kaka1488. In addition, this. Joined as their multikey to kill the person who gibbed them. https://i.gyazo.com/2b202b36efc8b10fef4f68c0cfd77636.png

Appeal Reason: I regret what I did and I want to play on beestayshiun again.

Additional Information: I checked more than 5 times to see if I missed it but multikeying isn’t against the rules so that might be why I decided to do a based because my brain did not physically remember that multikeying might be bad.

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  1. No Ban-Evading or Multikeying
    https://beestation13.com/rules?server=rp
    oop

Also, meta oof

Y u do this man, it hasnt even been a full week since the ban too

but I did this on LRP and I only fully remember LRP rules :flushed:

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  1. Meta and Communications

Using outside sources of information/software on the round to gain an advantage over players is not tolerated.
You cannot attack players over events that occured in a previous life. This includes ghost respawns, and new rounds. This does not include cloning.

Logs in with different ckey just to gib someone who killed you >.>
I’m ashamed for you here man

komando, I did not log in to just kill a jew just because he did a based, I logged into a diff acc because I didn’t want to wait more than 2 hours for shuttle to be called, plus I just saw him with a syndie hardsuit and due to my validhunt instincs immediatelly thought OHOHOH ME CUCK HIM OHOHOH
Plus, for example, if a miner kills you on stayshiun, wearing a syndie hardsuit and you respawn as a new person with lifebringer, he goes into your pod but you have explosive plants ready and he doesn’t attack you but has the syndie hardsuit on, is it rulebreaking to attack him first because hurr durr metagrudhgg or do you have to sit there and just be a potato

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plus, komando, how is it an outside source of info if I determined a man’s validity by his current equipment

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  1. Validity Rules

Antagonists are valid once proven. Suspicions, hearsay over comms, and meta knowledge are not sufficient enough to deem someone valid, but allow for further investigation.

Validhunting (seeking/baiting players to kill in validity) in turn, makes you valid.

Heads of Command/Security cannot make players valid, only warrant their arrest.

I got work to do, someone else can point more shit out here
I’d wait a bit longer before appealing this again if it gets rejected. At least two full weeks or more.

holy shit I just said he was wearing a bloodred hardsuit bruh you dumb as fuck

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Imagine joining a round, the crew has killed a bunch of syndies or whatever and have their gear now
You gonna kill someone with the captains ID for wearing a syndie suit?
You gonna kill the HoS for it?
Maybe the barkeep too?
Without even checking over comms or anything?
cause thats the point you’re making here.

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having syndie equipment while being not mindshielded and or a roundstart sec, captain or HoS makes you valid, how are you a trialmin if you do not know the rules

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seeing as this is gonna be handled by someone else anyway I’m just here to give input.
I havent seen logs yet but how would you know if the guy was mindshielded or not? did you spawn in as someone with sechuds?
Also thats not one of the main issues here, it seems you also lied in the ahelps about being a multikey so RIP

Wont be commenting on this further, I’ma leave it to the others cause you’re obviously been banned for shit they have logs for and I really cba to go through the logs on this.

I said that I was going to go and sleep first before writing this.

I said that I had to calm down.
I think I’m plenty calm now, but I won’t be closing this now - simply stating everything that happened so that I can get feedback from other admins. I’ll pull actual logs tomorrow when I wake up.

Right, lets start from the beginning.

You joined and rolled Changeling if I recall, and got killed and gibbed by the man who was wearing the Syndicate hardsuit later. After dying and disconnecting, you rejoin on the CKEY Kaka1488 which is already starting to cause my admin senses to tingle.

After your unfortunate death and disconnection and rejoin, I look at the CKEY and examine your player; surprise surprise, your IP and CID are the exact same as TheSecretSlavs, and the first thing you do is run up to the person who killed you and kill them.

Moving on, lets discuss this part.

I have a very, VERY hard time believing that considering the conversation we had in the adminhelp between me and you when I inquired. I told you in no uncertain terms that you could either fess up or maintain your stance, and that if I found you lying, you WOULD be punished.

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This is the actual ahelp log. If I recall correctly, immediately after you said “No, I’m not TheSecretSlav but I know he’s a mentor here. I’m Russian so it may be an issue with the IP detector.” As I said, I’ll pull actual logs tomorrow.

Every single word you say has to be taken with such an extreme grain of salt simply because you chose to lie, and then you continue to lie now - if you genuinely didn’t realise how bad it was, then why would you completely ignore what I was telling you in ahelps and decide “Damn, the Head Admin is telling me that this is bad, but its totally not an issue because I don’t remember it as one, especially to evade death. I’ll also go ahead and immediately valid this guy who killed me because he’s wearing a Syndicate hardsuit.”

That sounds far more like you’re justifying your actions after you did them compared to using that as your reason for attacking them.

I would like to reinforce that this isn't my official statement or anything; I'd just like the admins to know the actual situation at hand rather than you saying that you didn't know how bad it was.

TL;DR - You directly lied in adminhelps about it, maintain that you didn’t realise it wasn’t that bad despite the fact that I directly told you just how bad it was in no uncertain terms, and also just so happened to immediately single out the person who gibbed you beforehand and then kill them for having a Syndicate Hardsuit.

I’m going to sleep and let admins give their input on it, then pull logs for tomorrow so I can better argue my position, along with getting all the screencaps I need.

Not to mention you admitted to doing it on other servers.

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I didn’t get ling doe so br*h
also the lying part was heat of the moment thing plus the hippie thing was to call shuttle as almost all server was dead and last vote to call shuttle was refused

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Pfft, yeah, no, this is hella based.

With all due respect, Slav, this ban shouldn’t be lifted. Dunno how long, but now’s not the time.

At the behest of another head admin I’m going to deny this to prevent it falling out of control.

If other admins have concerns to raise in regards to it I will be happy to look back into the issue but considering the context and what happened I feel this to be the best option.