Rublax permabanned by Yorpan (Auth by Ruko)

CKEY: Rublax

Admin’s CKEY: Yorpan (auth by Ruko)

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: both

Which server did the ban happen on? Golden

Ban Type: server

Ban Length: perma

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 07/26/20

Round ID: Events happened on 19063 but ban was made on 19066

Ban Reason: Self-antag and randomly attacking players, disconnected before we could PM, based on previous note history this is a permaban and we ask that you appeal on the forums if you think this was in error. Round: 19063 Auth: Ruko

Appeal Reason: The reason I dc’d was because my lag was so fucking horrendous today. (still lagging terribly, not just on ss13) SO i would like to have this ban appeal treated like an ahelp.

Additional Information: the only 2 people I remember attacking were the geneticist who was trying to inject people with monkified injectors and the clown who made a plumbing machine that automatically pumped out Water and potassium mixture

Thanks for providing your side of the story, I will dig through the logs in a bit to verify your story, if your claims hold true I see no reason not to unban you :slight_smile:

Let me know if there was any other ppl I attacked and I will see if I can tell you what happened

After some log diving, I can confirm that the clown was indeed causing explosions by the medbay, and the geneticist was also injecting people with monkified. Both those kills were valid.

That only leaves the following to be explained:

[2020-07-26 23:18:10.172] ATTACK: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) has attacked AKcreeper/(Peacekeeper Cyborg-235) with spear (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 90) (Medbay Central (140, 118, 2))
[2020-07-26 23:18:17.822] ATTACK: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) has attacked AKcreeper/(Peacekeeper Cyborg-235) with spear (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 72) (Medbay Central (139, 118, 2))
[2020-07-26 23:18:20.371] ATTACK: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) has attacked AKcreeper/(Peacekeeper Cyborg-235) with spear (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 82) (Medbay Central (139, 118, 2))
[2020-07-26 23:18:44.667] ATTACK: AKcreeper/(Peacekeeper Cyborg-235) has flashed(AOE) Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) with the flash (NEWHP: 60.2) (Medbay Central (139, 118, 2))

But all in all it can at least be reduced to needlessly attacking a borg, unless you have a good answer to this as well.

The borg was defending the clown, and at one point, the clown was on the back of the borg. I assume this was collateral damage (me attacking the borg instead of the clown)

Thank you, I can confirm now they were standing on the same coordinates as the clown, I just wanted to hear it from you.

Full attack log:

[2020-07-26 23:18:10.172] ATTACK: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) has attacked AKcreeper/(Peacekeeper Cyborg-235) with spear (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 90) (Medbay Central (140, 118, 2))
[2020-07-26 23:18:17.822] ATTACK: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) has attacked AKcreeper/(Peacekeeper Cyborg-235) with spear (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 72) (Medbay Central (139, 118, 2))
[2020-07-26 23:18:18.970] ATTACK: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) has attacked Raphael2033/(Fishbreath) with spear (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 47.6) (Medbay Central (139, 118, 2))
[2020-07-26 23:18:19.802] ATTACK: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) has attacked Raphael2033/(Fishbreath) with spear (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 33.2) (Medbay Central (139, 118, 2))
[2020-07-26 23:18:20.371] ATTACK: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) has attacked AKcreeper/(Peacekeeper Cyborg-235) with spear (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 82) (Medbay Central (139, 118, 2))
[2020-07-26 23:18:25.857] ATTACK: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) has attacked Raphael2033/(Fishbreath) with spear (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 18.9) (Medbay Central (135, 118, 2))
[2020-07-26 23:18:26.565] ATTACK: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) has attacked Raphael2033/(Fishbreath) with spear (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 4.4) (Medbay Central (136, 118, 2))

I will await any other input from higher up admins, otherwise you will be unbanned shortly.

The explosions that the plumbing the clown created were causing were 100% non-harmful. It may as well have been a noise machine.

Line 2043: [2020-07-26 23:13:09.856] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Starboard Primary Hallway (144, 128, 2). Last Fingerprint: raphael2033.
Line 2044: [2020-07-26 23:13:09.905] GAME: Explosion with size (0, 0, 1, 0) in (Starboard Primary Hallway (144, 128, 2))
Line 2049: [2020-07-26 23:13:13.854] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Starboard Primary Hallway (144, 128, 2). Last Fingerprint: raphael2033.
Line 2050: [2020-07-26 23:13:13.904] GAME: Explosion with size (0, 0, 1, 0) in (Starboard Primary Hallway (144, 128, 2))
Line 2411: [2020-07-26 23:17:57.744] SAY: Rublax/(Tyrone Dante Davis Anthonia Randall Austin) “clown made a fucking explosion machine” (Medbay Central (142, 117, 2))

Machine wasn’t even strong enough to blow itself up, as proof of how weak they were, and the only rule with any damage dealt to it was the tile the machine itself blocked entry to.

Borgo situation is understandable, especially since you didn’t go out of your way to kill them. But I don’t understand the basis for killing the clown in the first place.

Didnt know that at the time though. I saw him making a plumbing machine and when I checked what it was, it was potassium and water. I said something like “ITS POTASSIUM AND WATER”
and he said “hehe” or something like that

PS. a small amount of potasium and water can make a hull breach, like 25:25 im pretty sure. I just assumed that 15:15 (a bottle holds 30) was also enough to make one

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whats le status on this appeal

It looked like you were just RDMing people for no reason and you were banned as such.

You actually killed one person validly and killed another with a very flimsy excuse of a reason. He didn’t harm anyone, he wasn’t harming the station and to top it off he was a clown.

The status is needs outside opinion, will probably be shortened because the offense wasn’t as bad as it looked, but you still have a long record of self-antag and aggressive over-escalation. I think that with your long record of shit similar to this it should be final warning before permanent ban.

bombing the station is a flimsy excuse?

Plumbing that repeatedly produces single tile explosions of the weakest damage category is not bombing the station. It’s a noise maker at worst.

The machine explosions were unable to destroy tiles, unable to destroy objects on tiles and due to the fact it’s coming plumbing machine that players cannot occupy the same space as, unable to damage players with the measly 5 or so brute damage it would cause.

Explosion with size (0, 0, 1, 0)

how was i supposed to know that a literal bomb machine would just do basically nothing?

You were present when the machine was active, witnessed what it did, and commented on it. You say logs include your coordinates in very close proximity to the machine while it’s active.

Like you said, it did nothing, no damage, nothing. I just assumed it was still collecting

It made boom noises every time the chemicals mixed, and you know chemistry quite well in your own words.

You were a mentor with heavy foundation in chemistry knowledge, this just looks like trying to play dumb

when i played chemist on yog (and bee), i didnt even know about plumbing. I can tell you the exact date I found out plumbing existed, but I’d have to find the PR i made to a fix a bug about it. Unfortunately, my internet is still being a fat bastard. I didn’t hear any boom noises coming from it, however i did hear mixing noises.

edit: found it

I think a couple of week/month ban would be a good final warning, at this point I think you’re just starting to play coy

2-4 week ban for killing valids?

Misread a few few things, I think a day or two would be fair

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