RobustJanitor banned by archanial

CKEY: robustjanitor

Admin’s CKEY:archanial

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Sage

Ban Type: Server

Ban Length: 1 day

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2020-10-26

Round ID:23080

Ban Reason:Validhunted and killed clown for stealing captains shoes.

Appeal Reason: Clown attacked captain and stole his shoes. I sprayed him with my spray paint so cap could get his stuff. Ended up in a crazy man hunt and sec was failing to catch him, I got bolaed and bolaed the clown (I thought it was clown or the dude who teamed up with him who bolaed me). Clown hit me with crowbar so I started punching, then dude with clown hit me with toolbox into the red so I toolboxed clown. He died and an explosion killed us all. In my view, I did not escalate, only responded in kind. Clown stunned, I stunned. They used light damage I used light damage, they tried to kill I tried to kill. I will admit it was not my place to get involved but I get tired of sec always failing.

Additional Information:

So first of all, fists do brute not stamina damage. No idea where you got that from.
logs time:
first attack:

> [2020-10-26 16:16:44.809] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has attacked (Chaos Insurgency) with spray can (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 86) (Central Primary Hallway (98, 135, 2))

then you somehow get bolad later:

> [2020-10-26 16:17:08.606] ATTACK: (NAME MISSING) has threw and hit Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) with the bola (NEWHP: 91) (Central Primary Hallway (95, 143, 2))

you remove the bola and bola the clown instead:

[2020-10-26 16:17:51.680] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has threw and hit (Chaos Insurgency) with the bola (NEWHP: 81) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 150, 2))

punching:

> [2020-10-26 16:17:55.745] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has punched /(Chaos Insurgency) (NEWHP: 63.8) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 151, 2))

[2020-10-26 16:17:56.536] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has punched /(Chaos Insurgency) (NEWHP: 58.5) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 151, 2))

he retaliates (for the first time):

[2020-10-26 16:17:57.179] ATTACK: /(Chaos Insurgency) has attacked Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) with pocket crowbar (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 87.3) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 150, 2))

rest of the fight:

>[2020-10-26 16:17:57.434] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has punched /(Chaos Insurgency) (NEWHP: 53.3) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:17:58.335] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has punched /(Chaos Insurgency) (NEWHP: 48) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:17:59.033] ATTACK: /(Chaos Insurgency) has attacked Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) with pocket crowbar (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 79.8) (Central Primary Hallway (95, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:01.741] ATTACK: /(Chaos Insurgency) has attacked Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) with pocket crowbar (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 70) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:02.557] ATTACK: /(Chaos Insurgency) has shoved Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 70) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:02.557] ATTACK: /(Chaos Insurgency) has shoved Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 70) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:02.595] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has punched /(Chaos Insurgency) (NEWHP: 27.8) (Central Primary Hallway (95, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:03.415] ATTACK: /(Chaos Insurgency) has kicks Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 70) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:03.415] ATTACK: /(Chaos Insurgency) has shoved Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 70) (Central Primary Hallway (94, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:06.392] ATTACK: /(Chaos Insurgency) has attacked Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) with pocket crowbar (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 30.3) (Central Primary Hallway (95, 152, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:07.653] ATTACK: /(Chaos Insurgency) has attacked Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) with pocket crowbar (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 26.5) (Central Primary Hallway (95, 152, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:15.544] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has attacked /(Chaos Insurgency) with potted plant (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -7.5) (Central Primary Hallway (93, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:16.414] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has attacked /(Chaos Insurgency) with potted plant (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -15) (Central Primary Hallway (93, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:17.320] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has attacked /(Chaos Insurgency) with potted plant (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -22.5) (Central Primary Hallway (93, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:18.155] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has attacked /(Chaos Insurgency) with potted plant (Wielded) (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -30) (Central Primary Hallway (93, 151, 2)) [2020-10-26 16:18:38.209] ATTACK: Robustjanitor/(Jaye Andreev) has attacked /(Chaos Insurgency) with mechanical toolbox (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -56.5) (Central Primary Hallway (106, 132, 2))

And then the clown died. During the fight you got hit once by some third party with a toolbox.

Clown didn’t try to kill you, he defended himself.
This is validhunting and overescalation. Denied, but I am not closing it without second admin opinion.

I got hit more then once cause I got knocked into the red, I don’t know enough about logs to really argue with it though, I just know what I saw on my screen. And there were probably 6-8 people involved in all this, and I am the only one who got banned.

Because you did the most damage to clown, rest of people threw a hit/two or just shoved him. He died because of you critting him.

So if I see someone attacking the captain I’m just supposed to keep walking? I used a stun weapon.

yeah I agree that the ban should stay, shouldn’t even have gotten that involved as a chef really. You aren’t sec, you cook for the crew.

I don’t know I feel like logs and being picked and chosen to support the argument but if you guys say it stays it stays.

You are not supposed to punch clown to death. During the fight you got hit once (or twice) and your “red hp” was probably from lack of oxygen/low pressure.

Denying and closing this is second admin opinion.

It was from a person with clown hitting me with a toolbox, he admitted in dead chat

I don’t know how I’ve been lynched for making healing diseases in MRP and no one got banned but clown can just attack the captain and anyone who tries to stop him gets banned. I don’t understand this server, I swear all that matters is who does something not what is done.

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That last sentence is counterintuitive. If you don’t like it don’t play here

What I’m saying is I’ve seen people do far worse to me with far less reason and not get a ban, and the only reason I can imagine is they know somebody/have established a reputation. Maybe I’ll take you up on it and just not play here

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