Robert McSteal Player Report(2)

In-game report:

   Title: Robert McSteal Player Report
   
   CKEY: Frebbie

   Your Discord: FREB_CRF

   Offender’s CKEY: Unknown

   LRP or MRP server: Golden LRP

   Offender’s In-Game Name: Robert McSteal

   Date (MM-DD-YYYY): 12/8/2020

   Round Number: 24857

   Rules Broken: 2, 3, 4, 7

   Incident Description: I was getting implants in science after repairing half the station from nonantag bombing done by cheeksgaywood and Robert McSteal hunted me down presubably for a metagrudge, and killed me as I resisted arrest while another officer tried to stop him from the random attack/arrest.

   Additional Information:
  • Was getting implants in science after fixing up half the station
  • Robert McSteal attacks me
  • Another officer, Quennesy Hennesey, who I had helped earlier in the shift and saw me repairing half the station which had been mercilessly ravaged by cheeksgaywood was having nothing of it and attacked Robert for his random wordless attack
  • Quennesy Hennesey’s baton is out of charge, I pick up Robert’s detective baton and disable him trying to figure out what is going on with one sec officer attacking me and the other attacking him
  • Robert Pulls out a gun and blasts me to death, Quennesy Hennesey runs when his baton is out of charge
  • Robert strips me and leaves me in the security area of evac without telling anyone
  • Given that there was a changeling hulk loose smashing everything, I highly doubt this was motivated simply by trespassing, but that’s just a guess given the reaction of his fellow security
  • This player has previously killed me entirely unprovoked without reason as a nonantag Robert McSteal Player Report (of which I filed a report that was processed today)

Robert Mcsteal says, “Guess they just let em go.”

Robert Mcsteal says, “Huh.”

Robert Mcsteal says, “Cool I guess.”

Robert Mcsteal says, “Nevermind.”

You insert the the surgical toolset implant into the autodoc.

Robert Mcsteal has beat you with the police baton!

The doors to the autodoc clamp shut behind you.

You feel a sharp sting as the autodoc starts inserting the organ into your body.

The autodoc stops inserting the organ into your body.

Fred Boshaw says, “Whats up.”

Robert Mcsteal has beat you with the police baton!

You’re too exhausted to keep going.

Robert Mcsteal says, “Bad boy.”

Robert Mcsteal screams!

Quennesy Hennesey has electrocuted Robert Mcsteal with the stun baton!

Robert Mcsteal says, “Breaking doors are bad.”

Quennesy Hennesey enforced the law upon Robert Mcsteal in the chest with the stun baton!

Quennesy Hennesey enforced the law upon Robert Mcsteal in the right leg with the stun baton!

Robert Mcsteal says, “YO.”

Quennesy Hennesey has electrocuted Robert Mcsteal with the stun baton!

Quennesy Hennesey enforced the law upon Robert Mcsteal in the chest with the stun baton!

Robert Mcsteal says, “HARM BATON.”

Quennesy Hennesey enforced the law upon Robert Mcsteal in the left arm with the stun baton!

Quennesy Hennesey has electrocuted Robert Mcsteal with the stun baton!

Quennesy Hennesey enforced the law upon Robert Mcsteal in the chest with the stun baton!

Quennesy Hennesey enforced the law upon Robert Mcsteal in the right leg with the stun baton!

Fred Boshaw has knocked Robert Mcsteal’s legs out from under them with the police baton!

[Common] Robert Mcsteal says, “QUENSSY MURDERING.”

Robert Mcsteal says, “QUENSSY MURDERING.”

Quennesy Hennesey enforced the law upon Robert Mcsteal in the chest with the stun baton!

[Common] Roy Murray yells, “GWAAAAAAAARRRHHH!!!”

Fred Boshaw says, “Dude.”

[Common] Robert Mcsteal says, “BAD BOY.”

Robert Mcsteal says, “BAD BOY.”

Fred Boshaw has knocked Robert Mcsteal’s legs out from under them with the police baton!

The flash emits a blinding light!

Your eyes sting a little.

Fred Boshaw says, “Youre bad.”

Chef Manama says, “Everything okay in here.”

Fred Boshaw has knocked Robert Mcsteal’s legs out from under them with the police baton!

Fred Boshaw screams!

Your armor softens the blow!

Fred Boshaw screams!

You’re hit by .38 bullet in the chest!

Robert Mcsteal fires the Colt Detective Special!

Fred Boshaw has knocked Robert Mcsteal’s legs out from under them with the police baton!

You’re hit by .38 bullet in the head!

Your armor softens the blow!

Robert Mcsteal fires the Colt Detective Special!

Fred Boshaw attacked Robert Mcsteal in the right leg with the police baton!

Your armor softens the blow!

You’re hit by .38 bullet in the chest!

Robert Mcsteal fires the Colt Detective Special!

You feel your heart slow down…

Robert Mcsteal fires the Colt Detective Special point blank at you!

… You can almost hear something …

Your armor softens the blow!

Fred Boshaw has died at Research and Development .

Robert Mcsteal fires the Colt Detective Special point blank at you!

Dallas Ratcliff says, “Why.”

Robert Mcsteal says, “Rule 1 of fighting back.”

Robert Mcsteal says, “Never get armed.”

Robert Mcsteal says, “Otherwise I get to pull gun.”

DEAD: Cardboard Geoge says, “why are u dead”

Robert Mcsteal says, “Sorry bout the blood.”

Robert Mcsteal says, “He did resist arest.”

hes kinda right you became valid to him once you used non lethals even on mrp someone with non lethals can be lethaled but maybe not dumped in a sec outpost

I forgot the exact word of the ruling but I believe that applied to the heads of staff. I can understand it being applied to security staff but the other security officer was attacking him and here is this guy that literally just got processed for murdering me in a previous round for no reason randomly attacking me without explanation.

It is LRP. If a detective with a very recent history of randomly murdering you is attacking you without explanation, and a security officer is in turn attacking the detective upon seeing the assault, what are you supposed to do in a LRP environment? Even if lethal force was justified, which I can put my thinking cap on and consider - I still wouldn’t be valid. I’d have to be revived or given treatment. Sec isn’t for killing people you suspect of being an antagonist and dumping the bodies in random places.

Anyhow, my primary belief is that this dude was pissed off about the player report and given that a hulk changeling with its armblade out was smashing everything not even 20 tiles away. I’m just a little bit suspicious.

its space law lol and you were valid on lrp and he wasnt because he was sec

To an extent this doesn’t apply if sec just starts attacking you out of the blue, which based on this guy’s record so far and the (unverified) logs posted is what he seems to have done.

Additionally it’s not really valid so much as authorization to use lethal force - if they don’t find proof that makes you valid after the conflict is resolved, they’re supposed to heal/release. They just have the authority to skip to lethal force much sooner than other folks because their ass is always valid to antags no matter what

What this player is doing just looks like valid-baiting. Attacking someone in the hopes they fight back so you can kill them.

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exactly and it worked because he had a valid reason to arrest him right?

Not that’s visible, no? Again the logs aren’t verified but this is what they paint:

Robert walked up to Fred, someone who supposedly has been repairing the station and whacks them with a non-stun weapon.

Second Security Officer, Quennesy starts whacking Robert with stun baton not Fred

Fred starts helping second officer, and since it’s two officers in conflict here I would definitely not call taking a side as interfering with a valid arrest.

Fred is shot dead, full stripped and left dead in a remote part of the station.

Where does valid arrest reason or even killing validity come into play here @Nik735?

Again, security may escalate to lethal force =/= the player is valid. It means they can be crit/killed for sake of detainment, not removed from round entirely.

Add onto this incident that the player was just banned because of 4noRaisin RDM with Fred and it looks even worse.

I forgot to mention in the initial report that I was a non-antagonist.

If it isn’t clear @Nik735 I’m not disputing guys right to arrest me, because I was an engineer in RnD thus trespassing, that wouldn’t be a big deal. If the two of them wanted to arrest me, hey - I’m in the wrong even if it’s minor, whatever. It was the totality of the shitshow that followed, with a detective randomly attacking me and then in turn being attacked by a sec officer, and me being killed/stripped/dumped in the evac sec booth that makes me think maybe someone whose only prior experience I’ve had with has been RDMing me had some validbaiting or metagrudge motive as Ruko suggested that led to this report.

It’s a lot to digest and I wish I had access to the round logs to look for things like whether or not he was using a crew pinpointer, what the deal was between him and the other officer, was the motivation stated IC to arrest me for trespassing or whatever before he made contact with me etc.

definitely shitsec and valid bating but he did successfully valid bait you

You don’t exactly get to claim self-defense when you initiate a conflict.

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Both of which are bannable and not okay.

Getting to the logs now to verify events unfolded as posted.

You failed to mention the part where you broke into sci with an RCD right in front of the detective. This was a valid arrest attempt, not valid baiting. Sec officer and Detective talked it out later.

I do agree the fullstrip and round removal was an invalid call still, but the whole situation is way more acceptable than it was presented as.

Report resolved