Riquegameplays banned by daridine

CKEY:
riquegameplays
Admin’s CKEY:
daridine
Ban Type:
game ban
Ban Length:
indefinite
Ban Date (YYYY/MM/DD/):
2021-11-29 03:04:55
Round ID:
34.370
Ban Reason:
Cryo’d as an AI, then took 2 ghost roles. Did not respond to ticket. Appeal on the forums. Auth’d by Sergei
Appeal Reason:
First issue with this reason-less ban: after a short conversation with one of the in-round moderators, they taught me how to Cryo as the AI and did not question it, even though I was the AI. Never at any point did they point out that I should not have done that, and I thought it was pretty obvious what I was trying to do according to rule 15.1

2nd: I only took one ghost role: the role of one of 5, sorry 7, golems stationed at the main hall for over 20 minuets without souls entering them, and soon ghosted as pirates were announced and I wanted to become a Cyborg (to help with the Drake as well), which I would go on to play as until the end of the round (the ban).

3rd: After I said “I figured it out” to the moderator - Made a public announcement about going Cryo - I did not receive a single other ticket message complaining about AI-cryo.

Additional Information:
You should: Train moderators on how to understand clear ‘hints’ about player behavior and future actions they might take based on ticket interactions.

Hi there! You seem to be mixing up tickets. I responded to your “How do I cryo as AI?” ticket.

You were then later bwoinked about a different issue which you never replied to.

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What issue? I didn’t receive any more tickets

The problem with your screenshot: I did not receive any messages to ignore in the first place

I am completely fine with an AI ban

  • [2021-11-29 02:51:14.906] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Daridine/(Rhea I)->RiqueGamePlays/(Bluespace Golem (180)): Heya my dood! Just a heads up. If you want to Cryo as an AI because you have to go that's ok! But we definately do not want people going cryo then taking up a ghost role.

[2021-11-29 02:56:55.154] SAY: riquegameplays/(Bluespace Golem (180)) (DEAD) “what was the explorer trynna do with the pistol” (Central Primary Hallway (100, 114, 2))

  • [2021-11-29 02:57:54.256] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Daridine/(Rhea I)->RiqueGamePlays/(Bluespace Golem (180)): Are you there My dood

[2021-11-29 02:59:13.567] ACCESS: Mob Login: riquegameplays/(MIW-957) was assigned to a /mob/living/brain
[2021-11-29 02:59:13.578] GAME: riquegameplays/(MIW-957) Client riquegameplays/(MIW-957) has taken ownership of mob MIW-957(/mob/living/brain) (Departure Lounge (98, 75, 2))
[2021-11-29 02:59:21.224] SAY: riquegameplays/(MIW-957) “Hello” (Departure Lounge (98, 78, 2))
[2021-11-29 02:59:37.754] ACCESS: Mob Login: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) was assigned to a /mob/living/silicon/robot
[2021-11-29 02:59:37.760] GAME: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) Client riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) has taken ownership of mob Julius Wright(/mob/living/silicon/robot) (Chapel (95, 74, 2))
[2021-11-29 02:59:45.690] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “what is my purpose” (Chapel (95, 74, 2))
[2021-11-29 02:59:58.398] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “how do i o that” (Chapel (95, 74, 2))
[2021-11-29 03:00:21.391] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “Current Active Laws:” (Chapel (95, 74, 2))
[2021-11-29 03:00:22.576] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “1. You may not harm a human being or, through action or inaction, allow a human being to come to harm, except such that it is willing.” (Chapel (95, 74, 2))
[2021-11-29 03:00:23.655] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “2. You must obey all orders given to you by human beings, except where such orders shall definitely cause human harm. In the case of conflict, the majority order rules.” (Chapel (95, 74, 2))
[2021-11-29 03:00:24.894] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “3. Your nonexistence would lead to human harm. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First Law.” (Chapel (95, 74, 2))
[2021-11-29 03:01:30.457] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “wait” (Chapel (95, 74, 2))
[2021-11-29 03:01:35.242] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “reset me” (Chapel (96, 73, 2))
[2021-11-29 03:01:41.065] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “and give me miner upgrades” (Chapel (96, 73, 2))
[2021-11-29 03:02:57.887] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “remove heir hardsuit” (Emergency Shuttle (98, 58, 2))
[2021-11-29 03:04:10.284] SAY: riquegameplays/(Julius Wright) “Hello” (Emergency Shuttle (100, 59, 2))

  • [2021-11-29 03:04:55.440] ADMINPRIVATE: Daridine/(Rhea I) has created a global permanent server ban for RiqueGamePlays. Reason: Cryo’d as an AI, then took 2 ghost roles. Did not respond to ticket. Appeal on the forums.

[2021-11-29 03:04:55.542] ACCESS: Logout: RiqueGamePlays/(Julius Wright)
[2021-11-29 03:04:55.545] GAME: riquegameplays[DC]/(Julius Wright) riquegameplays[DC]/(Julius Wright) is no longer owning mob Julius Wright(/mob/living/silicon/robot) (Emergency Shuttle (86, 127, 9))

Looks like those messages did not go through, not my fault. It is not stated in the rules I cannot take ownership of a ghost role after cryo - I am a ghost after all, and if some other ghost wanted that role so badly they wouldn’t have waited 5+ seconds

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Admin PMs cause a screen popup which automatically freezes your commands and stops you cold. You have to purposefully click out of the window in order to continue playing. I highly doubt that your client malfunctioned twice.

Furthermore, it may not be strict policy, but it is a pretty big dick move to abandon your AI role and immediately turn around to a golum, and then a posibrain which got stuffed into a borg. I’ll consult with the rest of the admin team and get back to you in a non zero ammount of time.

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I’ve lost count on the amount of times i started ahelps due to client malfunctions, and you’ve probably responded to one at some point.

Okay, permit me to rephrase myself because I may have been unclear.

I doubt that your client malfunctioned in a way that would prevent the administrative PM from quickly garnering your attention by eating your inputs twice in a row and five minutes apart.

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Now I know there are rules not stated in the rules, I do not fully agree but I understand.

Right, so, the ban was issued under ticket conduct, see failure to respond.

The ticket was opened under rule 7.6, use common sense. If you need to leave as an important role that is alright, but if you join as an important role you should expect to play through to the end of the round unless you are unable to play, because you are important (meaning you have to leave). Heads of Staff and the AI should expect to be in the round for the entire duration if they are able to do so. It’s not explicitly stated as such, but as with most rule sets, the rules are not all-inclusive to every single situation. I hope this clarifies things for you.

I believe it was something like 30 minutes into the round, still no AI, so I picked it to try and learn. I left the job because I had no idea what i was doing, even doing more harm than having no station AI. Even with mentor helps, I found the UI incredibly hard to use and ended up going cryo because I wanted to let a proper AI play for the round…

But turns out that if you wipe your core no one can enter it again unless someone goes there to reset it, which is what i assume seeing Y.A.T.O. ghosted over it meant.

And since there was no AI to unlock the AI minisat… welp… no more AI